Tivo S3/HD & Windows Media Extender?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by TexasGrillChef, Jul 26, 2007.

Would you like to see Windows Media Extender featurs added to your TIVO (S3 or HD)

  1. Yes, I would love to see Windows Media Extender

    23 vote(s)
    54.8%
  2. NO! I hate anything to do with Windows!

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. No. Don't need it, I have an Xbox or other WME

    5 vote(s)
    11.9%
  4. HUH? What the heck is WME?

    8 vote(s)
    19.0%
  1. TexasGrillChef

    TexasGrillChef New Member

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    I was just wondering how many people would like to have Windows Media Extender functions & capabilities added to the Tivo S3 & Tivo HD?

    Yes I do have an Xbox 360 Elite and yes it does have Windows Media Extender capabilities.

    However, I think, beleieve & would like to see those same functions added to the Tivo S3/HD. Why you ask since I have an Xbox 360 elite?

    Well for one, I have 4 TV's in my house. Each with a DVR (Currently have 3 Tivo HD's on order to replace TWC's DVR's) I have my S3 hooked to my main TV. I have no desire to purchase 3 more XBox360's Just to act as a media extender. Yes I do know there are Stand Alone Media Extender's available. No it isn't a money issue. Its a cosmetic issue. I would like to keep the number of EXTRA "Box's" to a minimum with the 3 other TV sets. IE would like to have just 3 box's instead of 4. (Surround sound receiver, Tivo HD, Avionix (Media player).

    Windows Media Extender has features that my AVionix Server/player don't have currently.

    Thus the poll.... I think Tivo Might consider adding this if they see enough people would like it.

    Would love to hear your comments pro or negative. Just please no flaming.

    TexasGrillChef
     
  2. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Mission...
    Well once/if TTG/TTCB capability is available doesn't that fit the bill?
     
  3. TexasGrillChef

    TexasGrillChef New Member

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    Not really, because it requires that you run Tivo Desktop, and currently Tivo Desktop isn't very compatible with Windows Vista.

    Second, there are more features and capabilities available with Windows Media Extender then there are with just TIVO Desktop.

    For instance with WME, you can browse the web, get weather info (not just from yahoo), & other internet capable programs that can run under Windows Media Extensions.

    As well as the fact that in the computer that my WME would connect too I have a dual tuner ATSC with Qam support tuner card. Therefore... if my S3 had WME capabilities. It would be like having a 4 tuner Tivo. :)

    So all in all WME has more capabilities, features and possibilities than Tivo Desktop could provide with MRV, TTG, TivoBack, etc....

    TexasGrillChef
     
  4. rodalpho

    rodalpho New Member

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    Of course. I don't even have a MCE machine, but why would anyone vote against a useful feature? Of course TiVo will never, ever do this because MCE is a direct competitor in the DVR space.

    Heck, I'd like to see my TiVo stream xvid and h.264 video from a SMB mount like XBMC, but that won't happen either.
     
  5. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Mission...
    Gotcha. Though keep in mind Tivo Desktop is not the only way to take advantage of TTG/TTCB, there's all those other programs out there such as Galleon, etc. that provide some of the features you mentioned and run on several OS platforms, or you can even roll your own. Also with TTCB any recordings you make with your computer tuner could be made available to your S3s so in effect the 4-tuner availability is there (granted not as convenient as with WME).

    While they are at it, also add place-shifting capabilities ala Slingbox type functionality - the TivoHD appears to have real time transcoding capability in place as already has been mentioned...
     
  6. Surrealone

    Surrealone TiVoOnThEmInD

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    Silly.... XBOX and HD is not the real deal. You can not get HD from XBOX only if you download HD movie or buy the HD player. The XBOX only does upscaling. Not true HD 1080p like PS3.
     
  7. TexasGrillChef

    TexasGrillChef New Member

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    The Xbox 360 ELITE does. When you use the HDMI out.

    I have checked using WMV-HD files that are in fact 1080p.
    1. Downloaded a few 1080p WMV-HD files from the internet.
    2. Made by myself using my Sony HD camera & Ulead VideoStudio 11 Plus which in fact pulls the 1080i content AVCHD and writes it as a WMV-HD 1080p 25fps with 5.1 surround sound file.

    Both files (Downloaded & made by my HD cam) are both in fact 1080p files.

    My XBOX 360 elite plays them with full resolution. It doesn't downscale them and then re-upscale them.

    My TV also "Auto" detects the signal coming out of the HDMI from my xbox 360 elite as being a 1080p signal.

    TexasGrillChef
     
  8. TexasGrillChef

    TexasGrillChef New Member

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    Sad to say, but I agree with you. Tivo would never pay the licensing fees Microsoft would want for WME capability. Yes some (not all) of the features of MCE and WME are similar and in compition to some degree with each other. Obviously my Windows Vista MCE records dual channel ATSC & Clear Qam cable. (ATI 650 PCI express).

    Tivo does need to work on some form of video streaming from a local computer network such as a DLNA certified NAS (Network Attached Storage) or computer and of course support Hi-def files such as h.264, WMV-HD, or any of the other popular HD file formats.

    I personally like WMV-HD, Why? because 3 of the programs I use with my Sony HD camcorder make using WMV-HD files extremely easy and simple to use.

    The other reason I liked WME with Tivo is all the other features that are capable with WME. Such as "ADDING" your own "Gadgets" & other internet capability for weather, traffic, etc from OTHER sources besides "YAHOO"


    Thanks for your input though. :)


    TexasGrillChef
     
  9. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    I have been saying for a very long time that TiVo needs to adopt media extender functionality and protected-WMV.
     
  10. sirfergy

    sirfergy Member

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    What would be really cools if if the Xbox could play shows recorded on the TiVo. :)
     
  11. ITGuy72

    ITGuy72 New Member

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    HD is 720p or 1080i. Both of which the XBOX 360 does natively without any upscaling. 1080p as far as I know did not define any kind of "true HD" standard.
     
  12. Leo_N

    Leo_N Lucky 200 member

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    Agreed, and to add to that; besides HD-DVD or Blu-Ray there is zero content available in 1080p, so hardly a big deal.
     
  13. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    you forgot the option

    I know what WME is , Microsoft is a company I neither love nor hate but would rather see TiVo spend their money on other features
     

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