TiVo roamio ota all lights blinking

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  1. May 5, 2018 #1 of 41
    Pchan87

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    The tivo turns on like normal with the welcome start up screen, then all lights on the front of the TiVo start flashing together (Red, blue, orange, green) and the welcome screen doesnt advance. The fan is on, I replaced the hard drive with a green power hard drive that had been working fine for over a year.

    Any idea what needs to be fixed, i read power supply failures but with the top open i tried to look for a replacement board on weaknees but none of the boards look like what I'm seeing in my unit. I bought a red wd hd to try out but that comes in on Monday.

    Thanks for any help. 546822481.jpg
     
  2. May 5, 2018 #2 of 41
    HerronScott

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    Sounds like a hard drive failure to me. What model and size drive and have you tried testing it in a PC?

    The power supply on the Roamio OTA/Basic and Bolt models are wall warts (external). Only the Roamio Plus/Pro with the more traditional larger case have internal supplies.

    Scott
     
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  3. May 5, 2018 #3 of 41
    Pchan87

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    I see. I plan to test it tonight. Thank you for that information about the external power supply that makes things easier. Wd20eurs 2 tb
     
  4. May 5, 2018 #4 of 41
    Pchan87

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    Strangest thing, took the cable card out. Tried to put it in diagnostic mode (failed to get to hard drive testing screen) and it actually loaded to the regular screen. Placed the card back in. Wanted me to test the channels but I have to leave the house. Will update in a bit.
     
  5. May 5, 2018 #5 of 41
    ThAbtO

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    The WS20EURS/X had an issue with Power Up In Standby (PUIS) which prevented bootups
     
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  6. May 5, 2018 #6 of 41
    Pchan87

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    Anyway to remedy that and keep the current drive? It was working 100% then I unplugged it to put the cover back on and of course the 4 lights started blinking again.
     
  7. May 5, 2018 #7 of 41
    Pchan87

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    Ok so because you stated there was an issue with it during power up, I unplugged the cable connecting the drive to the board. I then plugged the power adapter into the TiVo, turned it in and then reconnected the hd in hopes of kick starting the drive up. Well it worked and works fine for now. Is the simplest solution to just replace the hdrive then?
     
  8. May 6, 2018 #8 of 41
    Worf

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    I'd guess the wall wart is getting bad - you have to remember those things are made stupidly cheap in general - it can't provide the burst of power needed to run the hard drive and start up the TiVo, so when you plugged in the drive afterwards, you evened out the power.

    Yes, some companies use good quality wall warts, but most in general are crap and made to the lowest price but still meeting safety regulations (hopefully - some are pretty scary).

    Of course, because wall warts are stupidly cheap, they are stupidly cheap to replace - you need one with the same voltage, preferably regulated, and has an amp rating equal or greater to the old one.
     
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  9. May 6, 2018 #9 of 41
    HerronScott

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    As Worf indicated, that could be a sign of a weak power supply as well so you could try a replacement wall wart. Some of the early Roamio Basic drive upgraders were upgrading their wall warts to 2.5A ones I believe from the original 2.0A ones (swapping with their Tuner Adapters if I recall correctly in some cases).

    Scott
     
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  10. Pchan87

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    So I replaced the hard drive and same thing happened, so wall wart thats just the external power supply going to the wall , just need to find another one right?
     
  11. ThAbtO

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    How old is the OTA? If its still new (within a month), try returning it. (with the original drive)

    It may sound like a MB failure.
     
  12. Pchan87

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    It's about 4 yrs old, 3 months out of warranty. So it was the power supply, I actually had a mini I just unboxed and used the power supply onto the roamio and it fired right up. Son of a gun. The original is 1.5 amps. The mini is 1.0 amps and it still fired up
     
  13. Pchan87

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    I appreciate all the help guys, ill go purchase another wall wart! Now we know all 4 flashing lights = failed power supply; I hope this helps others in the future
     
  14. TeamPace

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    I purchased the wall wart that is for the Bolt and use it on my Roamio. After I put in a 3 TB drive it need the extra amperage. They are only like a dollar different in price.
     
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  15. Mikeguy

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    They're interchangeable without issue? If so, good to know.
     
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    I've been using one on my Roamio for about a year now with no problems. If I recall they are the same voltage output but the Bolt can provide a little more amperage if needed. The connector is the same.
     
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  17. LmoT

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    I had the same exact problem as Pchan87 on a 6 year old Roamio w/ a 3 TB HD - all 4 lights on the front of the TiVo start flashing together (Red, blue, orange, green) and the welcome screen doesn't advance. Initial thought was the hard drive, which I replaced, but the problem continued. I found this thread and decided to replace the wall wart/power supply w/ a new one. I also went w/ the wall wart from the Bolt. Worked perfectly - problem solved! Thanks to all for pointing me in the right direction - much appreciated.

    Note: The output of the wall wart on the original Roamio is 2.0A. The output on the Bolt is 3.0A.
     
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  18. kcejo

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    Thanks so much for this thread. It really saved me a lotta work. Today I also found my older Roamio had the dreaded four flashing lights just all of a sudden. After putting a 6TB hard drive in there over a year ago, it had been working just fine until this morning. I got on the phone with a Tivo tech and did a few worthless troubleshooting things with them, then all they wanted to do was sell me a new Roamio! I knew I had seen posts about flashing lights before, so I quickly got off the phone with them, and found this thread. I grabbed the power plug/wall wart/whatever from my Bolt, plugged it into the Roamio and voila! It was working perfectly without having to do anything but change out the 2.0A original power cord with the 3.0A cord from the Bolt!

    I did call Tivo back and told them my findings and they are sending me a new 3.0A Bolt power plug in the mail for free! So, as it turns out, the 6TB upgrade is still working great and acting as my storage device for extra Tivo shows. Didn't lose anything there. Still have the Slingbox connected to it so that when I'm out of the country I can still get to something on my home system. Sometimes the Tivo app works or the online.tivo.com works and sometimes it doesn't. The Slingbox is just an additional option if all the Tivo streaming options fail.

    So, thank you, everyone here, for posting about this issue. This way of resolving it worked great for me. Especially since Tivo is sending me a replacement power plug for free!
     
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  19. Dan Shearer

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    I'll second the power supply solution. Our Tivo Roamio (basic cable model but with a 2TB drive, worked for years) was running very slow for a day and then wouldn't boot at all. I tried a new HD, but that just led to all the front panel lights blinking a short time into a reboot. (I actually got it working with an old 80GB SSD I had lying around. 5 hours of HD recording time!) That took me here. I swapped the power adapter with the one on the tuning adapter (12V 2.5A) and everything worked. Too bad I reformatted the old 2TB disk since it was probably fine. But now I have a 4TB disk, so I'll leave it in. Time to order a new wall wart so I can give the cable company their power supply back whenever I don't need the tuning adapter.
     
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  20. kcejo

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    Dan, I called Tivo and told them that the solution their tech people tried to get me to do was not the problem and that a new power cord from the Bolt was making the Roamio work just fine. It didn't take much convincing to get them to send me one out for free. I'm glad I didn't go through with the whole drive swap-out and went straight for the power supply changeout instead. Such a waste of time when it's as simple as a new power cord. Anyway, give Tivo a call and they just might send you one for free!
     
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