Tivo Requests FCC Waiver: New Devices!

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  1. Feb 10, 2013 #41 of 169
    Bigg

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    Yup.

    Yup.

    The only reason to do real-time re-encoding would be on the playback end, basically to put TiVo Stream into the box, and then support wireless TiVo Minis with the transcoded video.
     
  2. Feb 11, 2013 #42 of 169
    NotNowChief

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    Oh joy! TiVo filed a waiver! YAAAAAAAAAY!

    Given TiVo's current rate of development, whatever they recently filed for we won't see brought to market for 5 years.

    They'll show it off at CES in 2 or 3 years, get everyone anxious about it, then take another 2 or 3 years until it's actually for sale.

    FACEPALM. FACEPALM. FACEPALM.
     
  3. Feb 11, 2013 #43 of 169
    P42

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    @NotNowChief Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :rolleyes:

    Clearly you missed what happened the last time they filed a waiver :D
     
  4. Feb 11, 2013 #44 of 169
    Arcady

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    The last time they filed for a waiver, we had the Elite a few months later.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2013 #45 of 169
    gonzotek

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    TiVo's Elite waiver filing suggests otherwise:
    TiVo files for waiver for Premiere Elite, June 7 2011.
    http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021689302

    TiVo announces availability October 10th, 2011.
    http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/10/the-tivo-premiere-elite-4-tuners-2-tb-available-today-for-499/

    That time frame, coupled with the discounts TiVo has been offering on the existing products as of late, strongly suggests they intend to have new products available by holiday shopping time this year.

    Also, the face-palm joke was stale two years ago and it does not get any better with repetition. I suggest working in some new material. Perhaps some 'TiVo's so slow' jokes could tide you over until they've released something new for you to pick apart.

    e.g.
    "TiVo's so slow, it takes 2 hours to record 60 minutes." :p
     
  6. Feb 11, 2013 #46 of 169
    davezatz

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    I think this year is on the table. But I think it's also possible it could be missed, or something could launch this year and something more next year. Their first waiver for the Q/Elite was submitted with an expedited 90 day timeframe. I don't believe similar language was used this time.
     
  7. Feb 11, 2013 #47 of 169
    NotNowChief

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    No, the truth doesn't get old. You really believe these clowns will get anything to market this year? I have a bridge to sell you.

    We'll get these boxes in the same manner with which I watch my TiVo content on my Android.

    Come on man, Holiday this year? Impossible. You know that's gonna get delayed AT LEAST until next spring.

    P.S.: TiVo's so slow my Credit Card expired while waiting for them to sell a new product.
     
  8. Feb 11, 2013 #48 of 169
    NotNowChief

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    Not crying, just laughing at them. I gave up on "hoping" with them a loooong time ago.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2013 #49 of 169
    Dan203

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    That made me chuckle. :)
     
  10. Feb 11, 2013 #50 of 169
    NotNowChief

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    TiVo's so slow my Credit Card expired while waiting for them to sell a new product.

    :eek:
     
  11. Feb 11, 2013 #51 of 169
    Dan203

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    We're not talking about a major product change. We're talking about a minor hardware refresh. Kind of like the change from S3 OLED to the TiVo HD. TiVo has released hardware refreshes like this in the past with little to no warning. I think you might end up eating a little crow on the above statement.
     
  12. Feb 11, 2013 #52 of 169
    NotNowChief

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    Dan, I hope your right. I do love their product, but their implementation is just terrible.

    As much as I kid about them, and some take it personally, I sincerely hope that it is, at a minimum, fully functional.
     
  13. Feb 11, 2013 #53 of 169
    Gromit

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    I'm trying to decide if I want to go ahead and order an XL4 or just wait it out with a Comcast DVR until the new products are available. I need something by 2/26.
     
  14. Feb 11, 2013 #54 of 169
    BigJimOutlaw

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    A minor refresh? Man that would be disappointing after 3.5 years by then.
     
  15. Feb 11, 2013 #55 of 169
    Dan203

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    If you think this is going to be a Series 5 then you're going to be very disappointed. TiVo has invested a lot into the Premiere brand and the new HDUI. Best case scenario is we get a new chipset which can run the UI faster and has built in Stream style transcoding. And maybe, just maybe, we'll see a 6 tuner unit. All the other changes are going to be on the software side and should also run on the older Premiere units. (maybe a new remote with location feature)

    If there are going to be any delays I think they will be on the software side. The new hardware will run the same UI we have now so there is nothing that should prevent them from releasing that regardless of the state of any planned future features.
     
  16. Feb 11, 2013 #56 of 169
    davezatz

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    Series 4 and Series 5 are just branding. Series 2 and Series 3 ran the same UI. Obviously HD and CableCARD was a big shift. I'd say integrated Stream and finally a robust app platform would be equally big.
     
  17. Feb 11, 2013 #57 of 169
    innocentfreak

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    It should probably be considered a 4.5 similar to how the TiVo HD was essentially a 3.5.

    I think the series 5 will still be when we see what happens after the 18 month delay from the FCC. Assuming they are still doing retail at that point.

    Other than the transcoding assuming it makes it in there it will just be a faster chip. I wouldn't expect any other exclusive features unless it is something that the older Premiere won't be able to handle due to processing power.

    I know I am not getting my hopes up that a new box will bring anything groundbreaking, but for some people having the UI as fast as the SDUI would be enough.
     
  18. Feb 11, 2013 #58 of 169
    BigJimOutlaw

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    It depends how you define "minor". They can continue to use the same HDUI and Premiere name. But if getting a new architecture powerful enough to handle 6 tuners and integrated Streaming is minor, what counts as significant? The primary candidate for such a platform has 3x the Premiere's performance. They can call it the Series 5 Premiere with Stream. :D (Thank you, Hopper.)

    In my mind a minor refresh is more like just a box using a Premiere-grade chip, adding MoCA, and 86'ing the analog.
     
  19. Feb 11, 2013 #59 of 169
    Dan203

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    I don't know how they're going to brand it either, but I'd be really surprised if it were called a Series 5.
     
  20. Feb 11, 2013 #60 of 169
    Bigg

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    Probably will continue the Premiere brand. They need to actually release the TiVo Mini first (other than to cable customers on Suddenlink).
     

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