TiVo randomly chopping 3 minutes off programmes

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by Zaichik, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    Couldn't find a thread on this - apologies if it's been covered before.

    I've noticed of late (because I keep missing the end of programmes) that my TiVo has a tendency to only record 27 minutes of a 30 minute programme. The programme shows as 30 minutes in the "To Do" List but the final recording is only 27 minutes long and it's always the end that's chopped off. As far I have seen, there have been no interruptions to power supply etc. and TiVo has not been rendomly rebooting.

    Any ideas what could be causing this?
     
  2. Automan

    Automan Ex TiVo User

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    Does it have any add-on modules e.g. endpad loaded or is it a bulk standard Tivo?

    Automan.
     
  3. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    It's a bog-standard, unmodified TiVo.
     
  4. TCM2007

    TCM2007 New Member

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    Are you sure it's 27 minutes long and not that the broadcast overran by 3 mins? This is so common as to be standard on some channels.
     
  5. blindlemon

    blindlemon tivoheaven.co.uk

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    Is it always the same programme?

    It could be a guide data issue. I regularly get episodes of "whose line is it anyway" on one of the Sky channels which is shown as 37 minutes long but the recording only starts at the 30 minute point! The repeat on the +1 channel is normally shown as 30 minutes but starts at minute 27!!
     
  6. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    No, it's different programmes, although quite often it's Eastenders. It's deffo not the programme over-running - the recording is only 27 minutes long.
     
  7. ericd121

    ericd121 Crown Topper

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    When you go into Programme Details, does it say
    "27 Minutes (Partial)"?
    Is the Status Bar 27 Minutes in length or
    30 minutes with an empty portion of 3 minutes at the end?
     
  8. TCM2007

    TCM2007 New Member

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    Checked some Eastenders in my NP; several are scheduled in at 27 minutes including last Tuesday and Thursdays. Friday was scheduled at 30.

    Looking in Digiguide thay agree:

    EastEnders (Soap)
    Starting: 19:30 on Tuesday 22nd January. Duration: 27 minutes
    Showing on BBC 1 East (101).
    [find out more on this programme from the DigiGuide Library]

    I'd never noticed because EndPad pads out beyond 30 anyway.

    The solution is to add padding to EastEndersor install EndPad.
     
  9. ...coolstream

    ...coolstream New Member

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    Since you say it's unmodified, can we therefore presume that you couldn't use tivoweb whether you wanted to or not? If so, it wouldn't be possible to use endpad module, but have you tried tivo's own padding feature which I think is accessed when you setup a recording?

    One other question is that since you say it doesn't always happen, does it occur when you have another recording scheduled immediately afterwards?
     
  10. Benedict

    Benedict Always Thinking!

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    BBC1 now have a 3 minute news bulletin at 8 o'clock (actually 7:57 in their listings) on weekdays, so any programmes at 7:30 will show as 27 minutes in the TiVo guide.
     
  11. TCM2007

    TCM2007 New Member

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    Coolstream: EastEnders was scheduled for 27 minutes; there is no problem with the TiVo or indeed the TiVo guide data as other sources also show 27 minute long episodes.

    The problem is with the BBC who appear to be issuing "precise" data and then not actually broadcasting it!

    (EndPad is nothing to do with TivoWeb, by the way)
     
  12. ericd121

    ericd121 Crown Topper

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    Oh, I see now!

    It's this new BBC News bulletin which is scheduled for 19:57 Mon-Friday for three minutes.

    Well done, BBC! :rolleyes:

    At least we know the OP isn't watching Live TV, or he'd have spotted it himself.
     
  13. ...coolstream

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    Re Eastenders: Have you considered scheduling the BBC3 repeat instead?

    Re Endpad: is it possible to install and use program Endpad on a machine without network access?
     
  14. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Yes, but it's not as easy :) You have mount the right partition and stuff.
     
  15. ...coolstream

    ...coolstream New Member

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    Thanks, Carl. That's what I expected.

    So on a bog-standard, unmodified TiVo, Endpad would be impossible?
     
  16. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    Technically possible - you could install via a serial cable without opening the case,
    but its far far easier to do it on a networked tivo,
    or even by pulling the drive and installing it on a linux PC
     
  17. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    Thanks for solving the mystery - that must be the answer.
     
  18. AMc

    AMc Active Member

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    I did this when I upgraded my parent's Tivo. It isn't hard once you have the right BootCD and the drives on the right IDE channels. But you do need to remove the Tivo drive and put it in a PC.

    My step by step instructions are here. The BootCD I used came from Tivoheaven.co.uk so take a look at his downloads page.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4733241#post4733241

    Don't forget to make the charity donation if you get it installed.
     

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