Tivo putting junk channles into my Guide

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by seaninde, Nov 2, 2019.

  1. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...


    That box does nothing. It's left over from when you could download videos from Amazon to your hard drive. The other box, Video Sharing, is active and it controls the ability to transfer files between TiVo boxes (when the boxes support file transfer).
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  2. hawk521

    hawk521 New Member

    Aug 6, 2008
    Rural Hall,...
    Having lived through the ReplayTV era and then the consumer Moxi era, I purchased my Tivo Bolt Vox a few months ago - late in the evolution of Tivo products. I was excited and hopeful that the Tivo DVR product had matured in ways that I would come to appreciate.

    It is indeed sad that in only a few months Tivo's evolving user experience has me regretting my decision to buy a Tivo. They seem to think that ramming unwanted features down the throat of their customer base is a good idea. It isn't. Tivo is burning their own reputation as a progressive customer driven feature provider. They probably won't realize how bad a decision this was until it has destroyed their customer base beyond recovery. Tivo - I implore you to go back to your roots of success before you burn down your own company.
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  3. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    Southern CT
    It is sad but I don't think anyone at TiVo cares. Best DVR in the business hands down. This is why we pay. Cable company boxes have neat features like doing all your button pushes at once...regardless of when you pushed the button. I don't look forward to going back to that. I don't think things will prove as the masses are not aware of Tivo and if they were they sure aren't gonna put up with tuning adapters it cablecards. I will enjoy my units until something better and cheaper comes along.
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  4. ElJay

    ElJay Active Member

    Apr 6, 2005
    I have to say these guide ads are making the choice between TiVo and the cable company box a lot harder. If I'm going to get inundated with ads by my TiVo, then it is losing one of its most attractive features. The cable DVRs aren't as slow as they once were, and I've even seen commercial skipping features on some. When the TiVo or cable card breaks, it's onto the cable company equipment for me.
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  5. seaninde

    seaninde Active Member

    Sep 23, 2019


    Same here. I got back into Tivo after a 10 year absence with a new Bolt beginning 2019. In that short time Tivo continues to insult me by charging me a fee to let them do what they want to my system. I was happy in beginning. Every update makes me more angry and frustrated with Tivo.
  6. Tony_T

    Tony_T Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2017
    Before this, I never used the (sort of) “live guide” that is accessed with the up arrow, but now that I’m used to it, I like it much better than the guide
    (that I never use anymore)
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  7. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    Rollback to TE3, problem solved. We already knew that Rivo sucked, but it's still the best DVR you can get.
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  8. Tony_T

    Tony_T Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2017
    ...and lose all my recordings? No thanks.
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  9. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    *shrug* so either transfer them to a PC and rollback or put up with Rivo's continued nonsense. Your choice.
  10. Tony_T

    Tony_T Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2017
    ....or use the up arrow and skip the Guide altogether :)
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  11. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    ...and continue to get pre-roll ads and whatever future crap they force on you even if you 'opt-out'.

    Let's face it, this is their new ad vehicle of choice. Rolling back sends them a clear message that we ain't gonna put up with this shite.
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  12. Tony_T

    Tony_T Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2017
    If you really feel this way then I’m sure you’ll agree that the next step that TiVo will take is to put the pre-roll ads on TE3
  13. KevTech

    KevTech Active Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    I thought it was Rovi that took over Tivo.

    Is Rivo another company that is involved or a mispell?
  14. V7Goose

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

    May 28, 2005
    New Mexico...
    Typo or not, I think it is a clever way to distinguish between the original GOOD company called TiVo, and the current garbage from Rovi.

    Last edited: Nov 13, 2019
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  15. johnfasc

    johnfasc Active Member

    Dec 24, 2014
    So just a warning on those new guide stations they are sticking in between. They just appeared on my Ota Roamio running TE4. For the heck of it I clicked on one of them....it played for 10 seconds then froze....went back to my guide clicked on the next one down the line and nothing...said this channel not available, so I went back and tried another...same thing box came up saying, not available but then my TiVo froze.. Solid! I could not do anything. Had to shut down re load to get my guide back. So, I will never click on those again or any for that matter. Annoying.
    They also started with the ads in front of my recorded shows. I watched one it lasted only about 15 seconds, but the next one I was ready for and just skipped it. And do you believe one of the ads was for my cable company, Spectrum!! Really? They don't quit. Annoying again. Life goes on...
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  16. peekb

    peekb Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    Arrived on my Roamio Pro last night. It's really fun when you're scrolling through the guide, the "fake" channel insertion code "crashes", and the guide resets to the position of the channel currently being watched. I can repro constantly.

    I also enjoyed the last release where movies with (YEAR) dates would often display after a line break, putting the year half way into the next grid row.

    And the bug (that seems to finally be fixed) I'd hit nightly when the EBS test warnings would crash the box.

    Fortunately, no pre-roll ads yet.

    TiVo (well, Rovi) is a mess. It appears they've lost their quality devs and have no test team with glaring bugs like this escaping into the wild.

    When this box dies, I'm gone...20 years was a good run I guess.

    Sorry for the rant, just needed to vent. Carry on...
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  17. Charles R

    Charles R Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2000
    I just received the Guide Ads (TE4 Roamio)... luckily for me I only have seven channels in the guide so I don't have to "fight" around it. And in reality I hardly ever use the guide but still I find it rather "sleazy"... if they defaulted it to on and allowed turning it off via Manage Apps I would be fine with it.

    Anyone figured out where the data is being loaded from? Via the standard connection (and stored locally) or some other method? For the heck of it I unplugged my network connection and rebooted the box... pulled up the guide and the ad(s) were gone. The moment I reconnected the network cable the ads came back.

    OK this is interesting... I blocked mm1.tivoservice.com and rebooted with the network connected. So far no ads. However every 10 seconds TiVo tries to connect to mm1.tivoservice.com. Going to wait a few minutes to see if TiVo gives up or endlessly attempts to connect. Well after 20 minutes it's still trying every 10 seconds. The guide itself appears to work fine... simply minus the ads.

    Last update...

    I whitelisted mm1.tivoservice.com and TiVo hit it right away. However no ads in the guide (yet). Rebooted the box and the ads were back. Blacklisted the site, rebooted and the ads were gone. After a couple of minutes I whitelisted the site and again it was hit right away. After a few minutes still no ads.

    My guess/conclusion. The ads come from mm1.tivoservice.com. If you blacklist the site TiVo tries every 10 seconds to connect. When you whitelist it (after it was blacklisted) TiVo connects right away however you don't get ads (or at least not right away). I'm guessing until you reboot or some flag gets reset after x period of time. I think once the ads are "loaded" they won't go away until you reboot with the blacklist. Once booted after a bit whitelist and hopefully you are good to go until TiVo reboots - we'll see. Overnight the ads haven't come back.
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2019
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  18. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    Combo of Rovi and Tivo, old news.
  19. Adam C.

    Adam C. Active Member

    Jul 24, 2017
    I think you are the first person to report pre-roll ads on the Roamio OTA. I don't have them yet on mine but apparently it's just a matter of time. I was really hoping this device would be immune.
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  20. erikwurz

    erikwurz New Member

    Oct 20, 2005
    These new streaming channels hit my TiVo guide yesterday. I clicked on two different streaming feeds and both of them caused my TiVo to crash. Also, both times I had programs being recorded, so I lost about 10 minutes of the programs do to this new feature. Not cool.
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