Tivo putting junk channles into my Guide

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  1. Nov 2, 2019 #1 of 83
    seaninde

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    Last night all of a sudden I have all these junk channels showing up in my guide that have no channel numbers. They appear like every 10 channels or so. Like adverts for free streaming channels. I can find no way to get rid of them. Tivo has the nerve to put all this junk in my guide. One reason I bought Tivo is so I could put only the channels in my guide I watch and turn off the rest. Now they add all this junk in there (including Tivo+). Anyone know how to get rid of them?
     
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    V7Goose

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    Welcome to the new Bad_Rovi business model - buy a TiVo and get unwanted commercials at no extra charge. You are supposed to just shut up, bend over, and enjoy it. They do not care that you do not like it, and they do not want to hear about it.
     
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  3. Nov 2, 2019 #3 of 83
    schatham

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    You can downgrade to TE3.
     
  4. Nov 2, 2019 #4 of 83
    seaninde

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    They aren't commercials that play but channel adverts that appear every 10 or so channels, this just started.
     
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  5. Nov 2, 2019 #5 of 83
    schatham

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    We know, it's been talked about. They won't remove it.
     
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  6. Nov 2, 2019 #6 of 83
    Idol

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    It's part of the new TiVo Plus roll out. Selecting any of the junk channels takes you to the TiVo Plus App. I hate it too and want it off my channel guide. If we can't remove TiVo Plus, we should at least get the option to remove the junk from the guide.
     
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  7. Nov 3, 2019 #7 of 83
    V7Goose

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    You call it whatever you want. In MY book, ANY unwanted advertisement that is inserted in a video device is a commercial, and they are ALL unwanted. They are also the sign if a very slimy company when they take your money first, then laugh at you while stuffing this crap in your face.
     
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  8. Nov 3, 2019 #8 of 83
    TonyD79

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    They aren’t advertisements. They are the channels themselves. They are streaming channels with no guide data but they are channels. What you have are unwanted channels in your guide. No different than not being able to remove HBO or ESPN. They are still annoying and unwanted but they aren’t ads.
     
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  9. Nov 3, 2019 #9 of 83
    seaninde

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    Yes but I can turn off any other types of channels including HBO or ESPN so they don't show in the guide.
     
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  10. Mikeguy

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    In my humble opinion, the persistent inserted lines are ads for the TiVo+ channel.
     
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    I just used my Mini VOX. Those in-guide ads are really bad. I checked my account. This is new:
    Privacy status Beta
    Limit Ad Tracking No
    Reset Ad ID

    I've had that Beta for a few months.
     
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  12. TonyD79

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    That’s why I said it’s like if you couldn’t turn off HBO or ESPN. They are abhorrent but they aren’t ads.
     
  13. dswallow

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    Their purpose is to encourage your purchase of the streaming channel because of content you see in the guide listing for the channel you do not otherwise subscribe to. That, by definition, is advertising, isn't it?

    It's like trailers at movies; we may refer to them as "trailers" instead of the more general "advertising" but they are still advertising. The little interstitial about the concession stand at the movie theater, even if it's combined with a shut-up-and-turn-off-your-cell-phone-too message? Advertising. The logo for the movie theater you're in that plays before everything else? Advertising (maybe for the stupid people who may not remember which theater they're at, but still). That stupid logo on your TV screen showing the channel you're tuned to? Still advertising. That music video that gets played during the wait time at a theater? Advertising.

    Sometimes we enjoy/or even want advertising. Sometimes we don't. But it's still advertising.
     
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  14. Tony_T

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    These are ads far as I’m concerned
    I stopped using the guide and I’m now using the left arrow / up arrow to see what’s playing.
    TiVo+ looks like garbage. Roku handles this model much better with their Roku channel

    I understand that TiVo wants to join the ad supported streaming model bandwagon, but this is not the way to do it (by putting it on paid subscribers TiVo, with no option to turn it off)
     
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  15. TonyD79

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    No. They aren’t selling anything. You don’t buy the channels. They are free to watch. They are channels in a guide. Period. They are streaming rather than OTA or QAM but they are no different otherwise than any other channel in your system. They are linear streams. Technically, a QAM channel or OTA channel is a linear stream. The difference here is that you cannot remove them from the guide.
     
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  16. dswallow

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    Those channels are ad-supported. Advertising them to encourage viewers is how TiVo will make money on them. They're not being altruistic providing information on channels you can get; if that were the case, like every single other channel you can get, you could hide it from a view of the guide. It's advertising. You may like seeing such advertising in your guide, but not everyone will appreciate it.

    Further, every TiVo subscriber pays to see that guide data. So we're being forced to see advertising within data we actually pay for, with no real option. Are we saving money by seeing it? I know it won't save me any money since I've paid for unit-lifetime access to this paid guide data, but those who pay monthly -- are they getting a discount by being able to opt-in (forced or otherwise) to seeing these advertisements?
     
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  17. Tony_T

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    What is the reason that you have to agree to TiVo plus terms before you can enter TiVo plus in these channels? (I will not agree to these terms)
     
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    The bigger difference is that you can't skip the commercials/advertisements on these unwanted channels. Obviously there is some financial gain for TIVO to entice the viewer to watch these advertisements. So TIVO is advertising these unwanted TIVO+ channels to force the viewer to watch advertisements
     
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    This is undoubtedly a test bed for advertising in the guide. TiVo is definitely getting something out of this judging by the way Tivo plus is plastered all over the UI. The guides function is to tell you what is on and at what time, not what streaming channels are available. Expect the real estate for the channel list to shrink even more down the road.
     
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  20. TonyD79

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    It is not advertising. Jeez. Yes. They are forcing their channels into your guide but they are not advertising. Saying they are as supported does not make them advertising. Why do people not use words as they are defined?

    I hate them. They are obnoxious and go against what TiVo has stood for in terms of your choices but using the wrong terms doesn’t help. When you make a case against them with TiVo, they will turn you off if you call them ads.
     
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