Tivo Pricing Update May 2011

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by socrplyr, May 19, 2011.

  1. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

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    There are a bunch of threads going on with only partial information about the new pricing structure, so I figured I would create one that started off with a list of the new pricing.

    Purchase a Premiere/XL at $99.99/$299.99 and your options are:
    $19.99/mo with 1 year contract and $19.99/mo after that
    $499.99 for Lifetime

    Purchase a Premiere/XL at $99.99/$299.99 and your options for MSD are:
    $14.99/mo with 1 year contract and $14.99/mo after that
    $399.99 for Lifetime

    Purchase a Premiere/XL at $299.99/$499.99 and your options are the same as the cheaper boxes, but no contract is required.
     
  2. jclem

    jclem New Member

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    Amazon has the boxes for $85/$242 and then you get lifetime from Tivo for $400. for existing lifetime customers. Isn't this a better option? Am I missing something?
    It looks like Weaknees is $99/$299.
     
  3. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Well hopefully things are simpler now and one can buy a Premiere at any retailer and at any price and get lifetime for $500 or MSD option of $400 without having to play CSR roulette.
     
  4. jclem

    jclem New Member

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    Sorry, but what is 'MSD' ?
     
  5. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

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    To get a Tivo Premiere with Lifetime
    Old $698 ($299+$399)
    New $599.98 ($99.99+$499.99)

    To get a Tivo Premiere with Lifetime (MSD)
    Old $598 ($299+$299)
    Old Upgrade $469 ($269+$200) (Note: wasn't available to all)
    New $499.98 ($99.99+$399.99)

    For lifetimes, the new pricing is cheaper than the old in many cases and on par with it in others. The only real drawback is the loss of the $30 "upgrade" discount, but much of that can be gained by purchasing the hardware at somewhere like Amazon for a discount.

    To run a Tivo Premiere with monthly payments for 1/2/3 year(s)
    Old $454.40/$609.80/$765.20 ($299+$12.95/mo)
    Old $428.00/$557.00/$686.00 ($299+$129/year)
    Old $338.88/$?/$? ($99+$19.99/mo)
    New $339.87/$579.75/$819.63 ($99.99+$19.99/mo)
    Note: I stopped at 3 years because after that the new lifetime options are always better.

    To run a Tivo Premiere with monthly payments for 1/2/3 year(s) (MSD)
    Old $418.40/$537.80/$657.20 ($299+$9.95/mo)
    Old $398.00/$497.00/$596.00 ($299+$99/year)
    Old $338.88/$?/$? ($99+$19.99/mo)
    New $279.87/$459.75/$639.63 ($99.99+$19.99/mo)
    Note: I stopped at 3 years because after that the new lifetime options are always better.

    For Tivo Premiere XLs just add $200 to all prices.

    It actually seems that the new pricing is generally cheaper over two years than the old pricing. After three it is hit or miss, but here it is interesting to note that the payback time for lifetime is just over 2 years (25/27 months), so it makes sense to just go with the lifetime if you plan on having the box for more than two years.

    Also note there is the option to purchase the box for $299.99 and then not require a 1-year contract. I would not suggest that route as you don't get a break on pricing and it is always more expensive than just paying the ETF if you decide to cancel early...

    Edit: Typo in one of the prices. Let me know if you think I have something wrong or have another pricing option that should be added.
     
  6. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

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    Generally speaking if you have an account with Tivo with a Tivo that you pay/paid full price on the server, then you qualify for that pricing on additional units.
     
  7. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    That is my question. Can I buy a refurbed TiVo or a Premiere from another retailer and still get the MSD when I activate the device purchased from someone other than TiVo?
     
  8. schul461

    schul461 New Member

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    If i'm on month to month now, can I buy a new device, get a lifetime MSD cost of $399, and then cancel my month to month?

    Or will that basically get me charged another $100?
     
  9. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

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    That was the way it always worked in the past until they started strongly subsidizing the boxes. To be honest, I am sure that is the reason why the simplified the pricing, so it doesn't matter where you got it from. You can always check by going to best buy and writing down a TSN and then starting (but not completing) the activation process online (I think they are on the outside of the box, but someone correct me if I am wrong).
     
  10. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

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    Don't take this as the gospel. Generally that should work with some caveats. 1. You can't cancel the month to month right away (I don't know how soon you can cancel 30/90 days...). Just make sure the service type is finalized as Lifetime on the new unit before cancelling. 2. The new unit won't count as a qualifying unit if you want to buy another device in the future. 3. If your current unit is monthly payments but still under contract, there would be an ETF for cancelling its service.
     
  11. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    I got the same numbers which is why I have been confused by those who keep complaining about higher prices.
     
  12. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    It's all higher than the $6.95 MSD on my Series3... ;) And higher than my $15.99/mo FiOS DVR. (My Premiere is Lifetimed and I don't currently feel compelled to get another.)
     
  13. sbiller

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    Will you be compelled to get a TiVo extender to replace or augment the Series 3 at $4.95 per month?
     
  14. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    My S3 will be deactivated as soon as I get around to making the call - it's been unplugged since we moved in November. So that's not really part of the equation, just a timely quip. ;)

    Having said that, if TiVo releases a reliable, usable extender (at least as good as the Moxi Mate, hopefully better), I'd pick up at least one and possibly two. However, from the leaks they will require CableCARDs and on FiOS those run $3.99/month. So it'd be a TiVo hardware fee, perhaps a service fee, plus the CableCARD fee. We'll see how it plays out. And hopefully such a device would be available in retail beyond TiVo's MSO partners like RCN and Suddenlink.
     
  15. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I currently run one TiVo HD and pay $129/year for my sub. I might be interested some day in upgrading to a Premiere. It appears from this thread and from the upgrade pages at the TiVo web site that my only sub options would be $20/mo. or lifetime. The reliability of my TiVo+Tuning-Adapter+Cable system has been too poor for me to justify the investment in a lifetime sub. I can barely tolerate it now -- don't want to be stuck if it worsens.

    If that leaves just the $20/mo options, I will probably never upgrade to Premiere. $129/year was bad enough. It just isn't worth $240/yr.

    To anticipate one possible response, yes I know about OTA and I am running it. What I would get via OTA alone isn't worth $240/yr or the lifetime sub cost (to me).
     
  16. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    So what happens to folks on the $129 or $99/yr plan after the year is up? Are they renewed at the $19.99/month rate (almost a 100% price increase)? Are there new annual plans?
     
  17. schul461

    schul461 New Member

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    I'm pretty much in the same boat, though I'm considering upgrading...but yeah, it scares me about that stupid tuning adapter and how unreliable that solution seems.

    And if my month-to-month goes up, I'll drop my tivo and go back to the time warner boxes.
     
  18. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

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    As of today "Schedule a new plan" shows me:

    $12.95 Monthly 1 yr $12.95
    $499.99 Product Lifetime service

    Last night I was still showing annual renewals as an option. So it's a price increase if you were paying annually, but not as bad as $19.95.
     
  19. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    At least they are still offering the $12.99 price and not forcing the increase.
     
  20. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    right or wrong, TiVo is now tarred with the 20$ a month number. Really have no idea why they would do this
     

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