TiVo Premiere to add Xfinity on Demand

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  1. Johncv

    Johncv Well-Known Member

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    Sort of a dumb question, what happens if this take off and sell more TiVo’s? Could this force the cable companies like Comcast and Cox and (Hell freezes over) Time-Waner to offer TiVo DVR instead of SA or Moto crap DVR?
     
  2. bareyb

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    I think your "when hell freezes over" is pretty apt. I just don't see them ever offering a competitor's DVR when they go so far out of their way to force us to use their own pieces of crap. There's just too much money to be made, and too many uneducated people out there who think "as long as it fast forwards and pauses, it's good enough for me". ;)

    ETA: This article from the OP kind of touches on what the big providers are doing with regard to TiVo integration.
     
  3. ajwees41

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    any one in a comcast area know how long it took from the announcement of the tivo on motorola to actual launch?
     
  4. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    The Motorola/Comcast/Tivo was announced in Mid 2005 if I recall. It launched in August(?) 2008.
     
  5. inaka

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    Got my Premiere XL4 at around 2:30pm yesterday, to replace my S3.

    The initial setup took a long time, as I think there was a software update in there somewhere. (The menus are kind of frustrating as it just says "Downloading..." for over an hour with no sign of how long it will take, etc.) I was worried the box froze up.

    That said, after the setup, this thing is pretty amazing.
    Setting up the cablecard was simple! I was expecting a nightmare, but it was easy. I had the cablecard I picked up at the Comcast office a few days ago, and I called to activate it. Within 5 mins it was up and running.

    And within about an hour I saw the On Demand menu!
    Oddly enough, if I switched the Premiere to the SD menus, I saw the On Demand right away. When using the HD menus, it took a few hours for it to show up.

    Just doing a brief test, I do have small black bars on the left/right sides when viewing On Demand content, and even the main On Demand menus. Not a huge deal, at all, but it is a bit odd.

    On a completely side note, the HD menus of the Premiere XL4 seem really slow and a bit buggy. I had a lockup once in the menus, and never had that with the S3. But I know during the initial loading/indexing stage performance of the tivo box can take a hit. I just hope it isn't this way all the time.

    But the upgrade process could not have been easier!
    Thanks to all in this thread for their info! :D:up:
     
  6. aindik

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    You are missing Comcast's home market. We have to have more Comcast subs than Houston, right?
     
  7. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Are all of these markets fully digital? If not, I would conjecture that they are not set up for a first pass for this product.

    Back when the plan was for Comcast w/ Tivo software boxes, Chicagoland, which is fully digital, was on the short list for release after Boston.
     
  8. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Actually, this is from the initial press release (emphasis added):

    Under the agreement, Comcast will make its Xfinity TV On Demand service accessible on TiVo Premiere set-top boxes in many of its largest markets, with the first expected to be the San Francisco Bay Area with a plan for additional markets to follow. In each of those markets Comcast and TiVo plan to partner on promotion of this new service in retail and other sales channels. Comcast will install TiVo Premiere set-top boxes with its cable service at no additional charge for its customers when the service is available in those markets.


    Not sure what it means exactly, but sounds close to an offering of a retail box from/through Comcast.
     
  9. MichaelK

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    I'm also surprised no NY and LA DMA's.

    Living in the NY one I realize it happens to be devided up pretty well with other players- but those 2 are the largest DMA's so unless comcast has a tiny percentage they would still be a bunch of subs.

    I guess maybe they dominate other areas?

    Anyway my take would be it more has something to do with hardware at the particular headends in the area. (just really a guess though to be honest)

    Seems Boston/New England is goto place for new initiatives so my guess is that the region wasn’t as cobbled together as others and so has consistent headend hardware and so it’s easier to upgrade that region rather than scattered headends at different times in other regions.
     
  10. aindik

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    Philadelphia...
    Almost every neighborhood in the entire Philly area has Comcast as the default cable company. In almost every neighborhood, it's the only "cable" option (if you don't count FIOS as cable).

    In NY, Comcast is only in New Jersey. Most of the rest of the area is Time Warner Cable or Cablevision.
     
  11. jfalkingham

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    You would like to think so, but they seem to pick the Boston market more than others for soft launches. TiVo on moto boxes (i still have one), anyroom dvr, blast internet (100mbps now?), home security (along with houston), etc. no idea why, but it might have to do with fios markets. Verizon (before walking away from northern new england) used Epping nh as well as kelly, tx to launch fios internet. Since then Comcast has gone into overdrive here with services/features.

    Who knows for sure, but brian roberts spends a majority of the summer on marthas vineyard, good excuse to keep the latest and greatest around here. ;)
     
  12. aindik

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    Philadelphia...
    I understand if Boston is a bigger Comcast market than Philly, but I can't imagine Philly doesn't make the top 10.
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    If it is Verizon FIOS, it may not be "cable" but it is an alternative not available in most markets. And they support CableCARD devices like say, TiVo.
     
  14. Torgo

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  15. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Market is different than the City itself. Chicago suburbs are Comcast while the city is RCN.
     
  16. aindik

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    Agreed. I think I'm missing Philadelphia.

    http://www.comcastspotlight.com/markets/philadelphia/312/market-info

    Philadelphia...
    #4 Television Market in the Nation
    2.1 Million Cable Subscribers
    Cable penetration in Philadelphia is at 80.7% vs the US average of 61.7%
     
  18. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

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    Cable still has a monopoly on local sports in Philadelphia. You can't see the local broadcasts of the Flyers, the 76ers or (with occasional exception) the Phillies unless you have cable, because Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia isn't available on DirecTV or Dish Network. It is available on FIOS, I believe, and on cable companies other than Comcast. But not on satellite.

    Comcast is supposed to be negotiating with DirecTV about that after the FCC ruled that the loophole they were using to refuse to do so no longer existed. But after two years, nothing has happened.
     
  19. jmpage2

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    I would ask if it's coming to Denver suburbs, but seeing as the Denver area seems to be dead last on virtually every deployment from wireless to broadband I will not be holding my breath for 2012.
     
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