Tivo Premiere....HORRIBLE!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by StringFellow, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. zenshadow

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    Noticed a lot of the complaints of the HDUI being Slow seemed to be from when the Premiere was first released. There's been patches out since. Anyone still not happy with the HDUI? Still Slow? Also, I have a Tivo HD with a Lifetime Subscription. Will the Lifetime transfer to the $99 Premiere? Anyone got a good reason NOT to upgrade from the HD to the $99 Premiere?
     
  2. caddyroger

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    I am still have the slow HDUI but I fixed that I am changing over to a Centon Infinity card. No slownest with it.
     
  3. crxssi

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    Are you kidding? There are TONS of people not happy with the HDUI performance. The HDUI is still dreadfully slow. I can sit there and count the SECONDS when I just want to page up through a listing of programs I have recorded. After every update (not like there are that many), I try it out again for a day or so before giving up in disgust and going back to the SDUI.

    Yes, it did improve SOME with the first round of updates about a year ago and hasn't improved a bit since. There are plenty of people who I guess are patient enough and happy with it... perhaps they never used the SDUI or a series 3, or they had come off an even slower cable company DVR. I don't know. But my hat is off to them, for they are far more tolerant than I!
     
  4. Oct 1, 2011 #104 of 149
    atmuscarella

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    My question is what is your good reason for upgrading?

    First let me state that I like my Premiere and I think it works just fine. I also think my Premiere is superior to my Series 3 HD and TiVo HD.

    However I would not pay $500 to upgrade either my Series 3 HD or my TiVo HD to a Premiere ($500 is the cost of Premiere with lifetime if you qualify for MSD). You just don't get much.

    If you are a cable user and have a Series 3 HD which needs 2 cable cards maybe you can save a few $$/mo by going to a Premiere which only needs 1 cable card but that is about it.

    As far as the HDUI - I guess some people think that is better than a faster easier to use text based one but I do not. The streaming features (think Netflix) on any of HD TiVos do not work that well and the only additional feature the Premiere has is Hulu+ (which I think very little of). If streaming is what you want you are better off just buying a Roku or Boxee box.

    Good Luck,
     
  5. Oct 1, 2011 #105 of 149
    aaronwt

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    Streaming works extremely well with Premiere. Or even the S3. I've not had any problems streaming Netflix. If anything other devices have had more issues with Netflix. When Netflix has been down on the PS3, Roku or Boxee Box, I have still been able to stream reliably from the Premiere. Of course the UI is outdated and it only does 720P stereo HD. But most of the HD titles are in 720P stereo any way. So for those titles I like to use my TiVos since they have Native Resolution output. For the 1080P/5.1DD+ titles I will use my Roku2. The PS3 is not an option right hnow since the Netflix application is borked. Always sending out a 7.1 PCM signal(whether it shoudl be 2.0 or 5.1) which prevents post processing from being applied. So the sound takes a major hit.
     
  6. Oct 1, 2011 #106 of 149
    zenshadow

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    Hmmm... that $500 for a Premiere with Lifetime? Is that the $99 Premiere + Lifetime? (And I figured the Lifetime I bought - had since the Original TiVo!) would transfer (as it promises to do so, right?) If they are 'recharging' for a Lifetime ... then that would DEFINITELY make my decision simple. NO. Not worth it. So, I can't get the $99 Premiere and transfer my Lifetime for free??
     
  7. Oct 1, 2011 #107 of 149
    atmuscarella

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    Correct you can not transfer lifetime from a TiVo HD to a Premiere. So yes you would have to pay for new lifetime service if you purchase a Premiere.

    Lifetime service is for the lifetime of the unit it was purchased for. It has been that way since the beginning and is now clearly spelled out in the service terms and by the service reps if you buy it over the phone.

    There was some confusing language in the early lifetime service contracts and TiVo did allow a one time free transfer for lifetime service purchased before some date in 2000 to compensate for the confusing language. They have also ran some promotion specials in the past.

    Good Luck,
     
  8. Oct 1, 2011 #108 of 149
    Resist

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    As others have told me time and time again, buy the new box and get a lifetime for it. Then sell your old box with it's lifetime on ebay to recoup some of the cost.

    However, I don't feel the Premiere is a worth while upgrade from the Tivo HD as a replacement.
     
  9. Oct 2, 2011 #109 of 149
    PedjaR

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    HDUI is much slower than SDUI for me. The only reason I stick with it is that the "stops responding to remote" bug is restricted to SDUI (at least in my case).
     
  10. Oct 7, 2011 #110 of 149
    newsposter

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    where does the guide data for tivo come from..there are times overnight or while i'm at work my router goes bonkers and now i worry if the web is out for a while that things wont record right.
     
  11. Oct 7, 2011 #111 of 149
    DoctorNorm

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    I join the I hate Tivo Premiere crowd. What an incompetently designed piece of crap.
    I love the picture. I love the dual tuner. Beyond that, simply awful.

    Someone explain to me why if I want to watch a program stored on my Tivo, it won't let me play it because the internet connection has supposedly been lost? Someone explain to me why an ethernet wired connection should fail when every other device on my network works perfectly? Anyone care to explain why, unlike any other piece of technology, it takes over 10 minutes to reboot?

    This is one purchase I truly regret. I should have built a DVR from scratch.
     
  12. Oct 7, 2011 #112 of 149
    PatMcNJ

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    I am signing up for the I hate the Premier club, too.

    I am returning it after a week.... Luckily I was able to repair my Series 3 today, with a new hard drive.

    My main issue was the freezing up, or more accurately, when the Premier stopped responding to the remote. Until it was rebooted. I just could not take doing that a few times every day. I lost recordings, or at least parts of recordings.

    I surrender! At least I can get a full refund.
     
  13. Oct 7, 2011 #113 of 149
    jfh3

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    If you purchased the box within the last 30 days, return it. If you are going to "build" a DVR, consider using a Silicon Dust CableCARD network tuner.
     
  14. Oct 7, 2011 #114 of 149
    DaveWhittle

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    The guide data for the next 10 to 14 days is stored on the hard drive. If your internet is temporarily down, it will still record your shows.

    It will let you play the stored program, but you can't use the "select" button to play it. However, if you highlight the recording and hit the "play" button, it will play fine.
     
  15. Oct 7, 2011 #115 of 149
    crxssi

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    Guide data comes at random times when the TiVo "phones home" through the Internet. It usually seems to connect daily and keeps 14 days or so of guide data. You would have to have a VERY long outage for it to not record something you planned.
     
  16. Oct 7, 2011 #116 of 149
    crxssi

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    Depends on the mode. In SDUI, I can play it with either, always...
     
  17. Oct 7, 2011 #117 of 149
    vikingsquid

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    My biggest problem has been the cable card interface. Several times I have been required to have a cable TV tech visit to restore the cable card because for no apparent reason, the card loses all the HD and premium channels (digital cable) and only shows the analog channels. This is very frustrating. Also, I want to be able to make DVD copies from Tivo recordings, but after buying ROXIO Creator 2012 as the web site suggests, I have been unsuccessful in even getting ROXIO to convert a Tivo recording. I think Tivo has really screwed the consumer by rushing the Premier to market with such crappy interface that does not allow seamless DVD burns as ALL of my earlier TIVO units have done.
     
  18. Oct 8, 2011 #118 of 149
    DoctorNorm

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    Actually I've had it for over a year. At first, I thought the dual tuner and the modern HD recording made some of the "quirks" acceptable; I was replacing my old ReplayTV units which had become technologically out-of-date.

    Slowly over time I discovered that the Premiere, for which I have a lifetime contract, is so poorly designed that I find myself cursing the machine at least 15 to 20 times a year.

    It's only after using the machine over a period of time that you begin to see the incompetence of their "software team." On a different matter, how long has the Premiere been on the market and they still haven't completed the HD interface? What do these people do for a living other than sitting around drinking coffee and doing, very slowly and incompletely, their crossword puzzles.

    The problem is exacerbated by the shoddily designed user interface with a file system out of the 1970's and such a desperation to avoid lawsuits that virtually all programs can not be transferred to my PC.

    I could never recommend a TiVo to anyone.
     
  19. Oct 8, 2011 #119 of 149
    Dr_Diablo

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    In adddition there will be a nag screen once the program info gets low an will ask to connect to the net to update
     
  20. Oct 8, 2011 #120 of 149
    Fofer

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    It is there in the SDUI too now, it's just hidden the System Information screen.

    I have many things I wish were better on the Premiere. The iPad app though is pretty great, I have to say, and was the primary enticement for me to upgrade.
     

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