TiVo Premiere Elite annouced!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by Philmatic, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. vstone

    vstone Active Member

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    Tivo needs a menu system thzt will manage large numbers of shows, different my shows for different folks, etc. Apple could figure this out. Not sure that Tivo can.
     
  2. KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

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    I wonder what features wont work and which ones will be half finished when they release it? I wonder if 18 months after its released if stuff will still be broken and not finished? Well, its Tivo so we know the answer to that.
     
  3. vstone

    vstone Active Member

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    Will the menu system still use flash based BD menus. Hope not.
     
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    As if people don't have enough clocks already? Just the push of one buttton and I can see what time it is. Either from the TiVo, TV or a bunch of other devices.

    When I dumped my S3 boxes for the Premieres i thought I would miss the OLED screen. But I have not missed them at all.
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    They showed that before the Premiere was released. But it hasn't been implemented.
     
  6. iceturkee

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    if it doesn't have 3d capability, its a waste of money for me as i would still need the cable companies boxes for my 3d tv and 3d projector.
     
  7. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The cable companies use side by side or top/bottom for 3D content Those channels come through fine on the TiVo and your 3D display can handle them.
     
  8. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    A nice start would be smaller fonts and a larger scroll box of programs, in both the SDUI and the HDUI. And in the HDUI, lose the discovery bar and take over that space for something useful- listings in the menus.

    How many people watch 20" TVs anymore? Mine is 60", and I don't need HUGE fonts wasting tons of space.

    Better yet- give the user OPTIONS as to what size fonts to use and how many items to list.
     
  9. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    The Elite is a Series 4. It will use the exact same software as all the other Series 4 units (with an extra driver for the different tuner and MoCo).
     
  10. Dr_Diablo

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    noticed a sata port on the rear panel, any rumors as to what the max Xternal drive it will support?
     
  11. mattack

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    I'm not saying there aren't improvements I'd make.. but with folders(groups) on, I have had thousand(s) of shows on a TiVo, and seemed to deal with it fine.
     
  12. agredon

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    Actually, four tuners would be more useful for OTA than Cable. Like was said, all my favorite cable channels (ABC Family, Disney, USA, TNT) rebroadcast their original series at least once if not several times. Broadcast (OTA) stations (CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, CW) OTOH may air a show once never to be seen again, especially if the show is canceled after that season. Best case scenario, excepting for odd cases like Ringer (CW ran the Pilot of Ringer at least 3 times) an OTA show won't be rebroadcast until after the season. I ended up having to watch the season finale of Hawaii Five-O on Demand because I missed the first airing and the second showing during the summer break was delayed by 45 minutes [causing my TiVo to only record the first 15-20 minutes because of a freakin' Tennis match (not Football, not Baseball, but TENNIS).
     
  13. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    As if the other sports are more worthy of ruining our show schedules?
     
  14. agredon

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    OTA users are the ones who need 4 tuners the most. OTA stations (CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, CW) air all their original programming all at the same time in a tiny 3 hour window (primetime - 8 to 11 PM) and (see my previous post) many times rebroadcast a show once if you're lucky [months later after the season is over]...never if you're not so lucky.

    Perfect Example: Monday, September 26

    8:00 PM Terra Nova (FOX), How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
    8:30 PM Terra Nova (FOX), Two Broke Girls (CBS)
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    9:00 PM Terra Nova (FOX), Two and a Half Men (CBS), Hart of Dixie (CW)
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    9:30 PM Terra Nova (FOX), Hart of Dixie (CW)
    10:00 PM Hawaii Five-O (CBS), The Playboy Club (NBC)
    10:30 PM Hawaii Five-O (CBS), The Playboy Club (NBC)

    I have 3 shows, but only 2 tuners from 9:00 - 9:30 PM. If I were to cancel Two and a Half Men (Not going to happen - I really want to see how Charlie dies: Alcohol, Angry Woman, Woman's Angry Husband, Something Else) I would have 2 Broke Girls (CBS) ending at the same time Hart of Dixie (CW) starts. There is a good chance I would lose the end of one, beginning of the other, or worse both. I'd have another problem at 10 PM when Terra Nova (FOX) and Hart of Dixie (CW) end at the same time Hawaii Five-O (CBS) and The Playboy Club (NBC) begin. Four more shows that could end up having to be clipped.
     
  15. agredon

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    That was a statement more of relative popularity (here in the US at least). You can't cut off a football game early. They tried that once - The "Heidi Bowl" - and alot of folks were none too happy. Personally, I'd like to see games show the rest on another channel instead of delaying other shows. They could even set aside a subchannel (4.3 for example) just for this. Other than CW most of the OTA stations are only using 1 (majority) or 2 (NBC) of the subchannels.

    It would be nice if they'd simply embed something in the video stream to tell the TiVo what show is on so that it can extend the recording [if possible/no conflicts]. But, that will never happen. The broadcasters don't like TiVo because you aren't forced to watch the commercials.
     
  16. L David Matheny

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    Yes! I don't remember seeing it discussed before, but in this digital broadcast age there should be some way for the TiVo to know exactly what is actually airing at every minute, even if the schedule has slipped due to a Presidential address or whatever. As you say, this could allow automatic slipping or extension of a season pass recording as necessary.

    Actually, the something embedded in the video stream should be the PSIP data. Is it accurate when schedules have slipped, or does it also reflect only what the schedule should have been? Could it be given up-to-the-minute accuracy somehow? It is sent in real time. Broadcasting personnel please speak up!
     
  17. Big Behr

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    The company description implies that the dread Tuner Adapter would not be required. Any confirmation of this?
     
  18. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    What company? TiVo? You should quote/point us to the source...
     
  19. rainwater

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    Tuning Adapters will most certainly be required if your cable company requires them.
     
  20. dbenrosen

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    Usually a known Presidential address does get updated in the guide. Your embedded option wouldn't really work well for a sports program because every minute the "end" would have to keep getting updated. The schedule isn't updated until the game ends. At that point either your TiVo would already be recording the station where the show as supposed to be, or you TiVo would miss it entirely.

    The problem with sports programming is the way CBS handles it, particularly the NFL. The NFL games NEVER end at 7pm (Eastern) so scheduling the prime time lineup to begin at 7pm is just dumb. FOX stopped that a few years back and now has on either the Postgame show or repeats until 8pm (again, Eastern time).

    Of course, you can solve all of these problems yourself by moving to the Pacific time zone ;-)
     

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