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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jaselzer, Sep 10, 2019.
It's hard to imagine that a whole lot of people would bother to search for most of this stuff.
Again, way oversimplified answer and Tivo_Ted has also said they are working with Comcast on plans for replacement.
Future of CableCARD - TiVo Blog
Longer term, we want to transition with the cable industry to a more modern, IP-based cardless security solution. As part of our agreement, Comcast has agreed to work with TiVo on a two-way non-CableCARD security solution that will enable retail devices to access the full Comcast lineup of linear and VOD programming, whether QAM- or IP-delivered.
Please stop repeating this misleading answer that Comcast alone is responsible for replacing VOD on Tivo (i.e. using IPTV access). It is way more involved than just them.
actually Comcast is alone is responsible since the old app was written using the old HME platform , Comcast could updated the app and use the same technology cox is using
Not wise to think something from almost 5 years ago still applies today.
Does not matter what Ted says if Comcast does not want to play ball and my contacts (high up execs in the company) have said Comcast VOD is dead on Tivo.
Now I suppose they could be wrong but I doubt it.
Even if Comcast and TiVo weren't at each other's throats in court, litigating over patents, it's hard to see why Comcast would expend the resources to create a new VOD app for the tiny TiVo user base (probably only 1-2% of Comcast TV customers). But then add in the bad blood that exists between the two companies and there's really no reason to think that Comcast is ever going to do any favors for TiVo going forward.
The "plus" I would like to see is a program guide that doesn't use up screen space listing actors twice, then cutting off the description half way thru. (and more).
So like I said, it's certainly not just Comcast's issue here. Therefore, folks should stop repeating that Comcast alone is responsible for replacing VOD or implementing IPTV on Tivo.
Just because the 'Future of Cablecard' blog is almost 5 years old doesn't change the fact that Tivo and Comcast had an agreement to move forward on IPTV. Given the absolute lack of anything else said by them publicly since then (other than Tivo_Ted saying there is work being done to create a replacement), what else is there to say?
Not much, I guess. You're right that any future software implementations by Comcast on TiVo would require both sides working together. It's just my view that Comcast has pretty much all the power in that relationship. If Comcast would agree to create a new XOD app for TiVo retail DVRs, or extend their IPTV system to work with them, I think TiVo would happily cooperate. All I'm saying is that I don't think Comcast has any incentive to do those things, so they're never going to happen.
This could be as a result of the Viacom purchase.
Anecdotally, I went to a Comcast office Saturday to pick up an X1 box to sign into my old Netflix account so I can get Comcast to foot the bill. I returned it a couple of hours later after doing so and they asked me why I didn’t want to keep it. I explained I have a TiVo and liked it, etc. They asked me if I lost on demand, and I confirmed I did, and mentioned that TiVo claims they are working on an IP solution with Comcast. They laughed maniacally and mentioned that due to all the lawsuits this seems unlikely. We shall see!
Shoulda called it TiVo Minus.
Or TiVo Zero, since it adds nothing of any significance to the platform!
And as a result, they took away the ToDo List shortcut. So, Minus it is.
Is that why I can’t re-map ToDo to 5?
But I have a Roamio which won’t get TiVo +
Why won't it?
TiVo+ is supposed to just be Bolt and newer.
As of this morning my mini-vox has it but not my Roamio Plus.
I’ve lost track of the changes. Todo was 5 then they moved it to 3. Now 3 is TiVo+ and Todo is gone. Had to use one of my customizable ones for it.
New update finally hit my Bolt+ last night. Seems to me that the Tivo+ stuff would be better suited for the OTA boxes rather than those with cable interface?