Tivo Plus(?)

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jaselzer, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. NashGuy

    NashGuy Well-Known Member

    May 2, 2015
    I'd say it mainly comes down to branding. Disney is now a very large, broad media company after purchasing most of Fox's assets. But they're still very protective of the Disney brand and want it to continue to stand for family-friendly and high-quality. So the new Disney+ app/service will be the home for the content and sub-brands that fit that image. (And in keeping with that image, Disney+ will always be ad-free, unlike Hulu.)

    Hulu, essentially, is "everything else". Which isn't to say that it's junk but it will definitely skew more towards adults and be the home for anything that Disney owns that doesn't fit under the five sub-brands in Disney+ (Disney, Pixar, Star Wars, Marvel, National Geographic). They've said that Hulu will work more and more closely with FX (Disney's prestige cable channel aimed at adults) going forward. And it'll always be the streaming home for content from their ABC and Freeform networks too.

    It's also nice that Disney recognizes that not everyone may want both Hulu and Disney+ content. So rather than forcing you to buy all that content in one service (like Netflix or HBO Max), they break it out. I often subscribe to Hulu but I don't really have any interest in Disney+. So I appreciate that.

    That said, they do hope that folks subscribe to all their streaming services. They're selling a $13 combo package of Hulu, Disney+ and ESPN+. Bought separately, they would come to $18 ($6, $7, and $5, respectively). We'll have to wait and see if they update the Hulu app to incorporate the content from Disney+ and ESPN+ so that you don't need to switch apps if you buy the whole bundle. My guess is that they will, eventually if not right away. Think of Hulu as their base service, Disney+ as their family premium add-on, and ESPN+ as their sports add-on.

    Yeah, kinda. But I expect all these apps -- with the exception of Netflix -- will work with the TV app on Apple TV (and other similar aggregation UIs on other platforms going forward), so that you can maintain a single watchlist across multiple services and browse curated recommendations from all of them in one place. (Netflix may eventually give in and opt in too. But for now, they don't think they need to.)

    As for paying for all these different services, well, it's up to you to decide if you really need all of them, all the time. I don't. Two or three at a time, combined with free OTA TV plus free streaming sources (e.g. YouTube, PBS, Tubi, etc.) is plenty for me. Some of them, such as CBS All Access or Peacock (based on what I've read so far), don't even tempt me.
  2. calitivo

    calitivo Active Member

    Dec 5, 2002
    Are you kidding me. Now they are shoehorning Tivo+ links on every guide screen.

    **** you Tivo
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  3. mntvjunkie

    mntvjunkie Active Member

    May 12, 2009
    With the Fox Acquisition, Disney acquired a rather large library of mature content. In addition, even prior to Fox, Disney had a lot of teen+ programming that didn't really jive with the children/family focused "Disney" brand. Hulu fits in to that strategy, and will continue to be home to the non-family friendly programming of Fox (both old and new, from the looks of it) FX, FXX, Freeform, ABC, Fox Movies, etc. In addition, Hulu produces a lot of original programming that would not be appropriate for a family audience (Handmaids Tale for one).

    NBC programming will stay until "late 2024" but no longer be exclusive to Hulu. They think they can get more if they go it alone (much like Disney and Fox programming being pulled from Netflix over the past few years).

    The days of paying one service $10 a month to get everything are sadly over, at least for now. Personally, as a consumer, I am tired of paying individual services and will probably keep my top 2 or 3, maybe moving from service to service to "catch up". Not sure if this strategy will work long term for the networks, but I can't see people eager to jump back into $100 "TV bills" again, if they have cut the cord.
  4. ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Well-Known Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Somerset NJ...
    Never seen such a thing. Can you get a screen cap of this?
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  5. calitivo

    calitivo Active Member

    Dec 5, 2002
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    Every guide screen has one line for Tivo+

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  6. ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Well-Known Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Somerset NJ...
  7. Cheezmo

    Cheezmo Active Member

    Apr 26, 2004
    Plano, TX
    I would have thought it would be difficult to name 25 channels that I have never heard of and have no interest in. Well done.

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  8. bradolson

    bradolson New Member

    Mar 14, 2006
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  9. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
    Will this be on Roamios running TE4 or just Bolts and up?
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  10. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    Hmm, and there's no way to hide it from the guide the way you can hide other channels from the guide that you don't want to display? That's atrocious. And with that TiVo+ line shoved into the guide, any hope of ever seeing the live guide in TE4 dies. Sticking with TE3 looks better and better with each new added "feature".
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  11. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Well-Known Member

    May 7, 2006
    TiVo Plus is rolling out starting today and continuing over the next few weeks to customers with Series 6 devices with Experience 4 (TE4). It will be available on the Home screen, when it goes live
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  12. OrangeCrush

    OrangeCrush Active Member

    Feb 18, 2016
    OTA + Philo and a Channels DVR set up solved it for my household. Both antenna and streaming channels are nicely integrated into one guide & DVR UI and you can keep as much as you like as long as you like.

    Roamios appear to be excluded. No mention of when or if they'll be so blessed.
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  13. calitivo

    calitivo Active Member

    Dec 5, 2002
    With Tivo Edge (Series 7) now shipping, Bolt (Series 6) gets this new "feature". If this is some sort of tactic to drive new sales, what are they thinking. Nobody is buying a Tivo for these channels and it is just going to annoy its existing user base. I get that hardware sales have evaporated and that they need to somehow monetize the existing user base, but this is a road to nowhere.

    It took about an hour, mostly on hold, but Tivo agreed to let me return the Bolt I bought during the summer lifetime transfer promotion. This wasn't the Tivo experience I was buying/renewing into. Glad to hear there are several valid replacement solutions out there. I'll go back to my Roamio and eventually switch to an alternative down the road.

    Not angry and actually found this whole process somewhat interesting. But you can't lessen the user experience. In hindsight, just a waste of time for both me and Tivo.
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  14. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    You're referring to the Amazon DVR? It allows you to record the Philo channels locally?
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  15. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    Ah, the joys of being on TE3! :D
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  16. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    What a sad state of affairs for TiVo these days trying to scrounge their last few pennies before becoming completely irrelevant. Oh well, we had a good run while it lasted.
  17. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    Don't count it out yet (please).
  18. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
    The Recast records OTA channels. The Recast does not record streaming channels like Philo.
  19. jaselzer

    jaselzer Active Member

    Sep 10, 2018
    Help me out here please: Where do you find TiVo +? You turn on the Guide and it's there or is it found in the Apps section?
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  20. edwinyuen

    edwinyuen New Member

    Dec 29, 2010
    It's advertised in the guide and it's got its own section on the main menu, like Apps and My Shows. It's really pervasive in the UI now.

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