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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jaselzer, Sep 10, 2019.
Wow, what a garbage lineup. Forced ads to cover that?
Not that i care much about this until they add some better content like NBC Universal, but is this only available on bolts and Edge? I don't see it on my Roamio Plus.
In other words, another 100% crap 'service'.
This is a bunch of junk channels that no one would watch. What they need is to release the app’s for the streaming platforms. So that TiVo can be used on the streaming boxes. This gives people a reason to own one in the future for over the air tv.
lol, total trash lineup. what a joke !
Hasn't been released yet.
Peacock: Anticipated release date Spring 2020.
Expect two versions, a cheaper (or free) one with ads and a higher-tier SVOD w/o ads.
Yeah. Comcast has indicated that their plan is to give away their upcoming SVOD service Peacock (with ads) for free if you get Xfinity TV service. If you want to remove the ads, that will cost extra. And there will be a charge for Peacock, either with or without ads, if it doesn't come bundled in with your cable TV service. The rumored figures that have been reported are in the $8-12/mo range with ads. I don't see many takers but we'll see what it offers...
I’m assuming this will mean that many NBC shows currently available via Hulu will be pulled from Hulu at some point.
Right. I expect that to happen once Comcast sells their 33% stake in Hulu to Disney, which is supposed to happen (IIRC) in the 2022-24 timeframe. (That's the time window in which, I believe, either party can force the transaction to happen but if neither has done so by the end of the window, then it happens then.) When the transaction takes place, the price of the stake will depend on a current third-party fair market valuation of Hulu, which will be largely based, of course, on the number of Hulu subscribers at the time and the prices they're paying for the service. So it's in Comcast's interests to keep the performance and value of Hulu propped up for the next few years, until they sell their major stake in the service.
Which is why we'll continue to see NBC network shows continue to stream next-day on Hulu up until the sale takes place. (For cord-cutters, Hulu is essentially a DVR replacement for ABC+NBC+Fox, along with all the other stuff that the $6 service offers.) As far as licensing past seasons of NBC shows to Hulu (as well as Netflix and Prime Video), I expect that will mostly continue too, although perhaps increasingly that will be on a non-exclusive basis, with those series shared with Comcast's competing Peacock service. But when it comes to their biggest past series, like The Office and Parks and Recreation, they've already said that those will become exclusive to Peacock. My guess, though, is that current NBC (and USA and SyFy and Bravo, etc.) series that already have past seasons on Hulu (e.g. This Is Us, Brooklyn Nine-Nine) will stay on Hulu (but also shared with Peacock) as long as new seasons keep airing on NBC. It's in their interest to let all those Hulu subscribers catch up on back seasons so that they'll be more likely to tune into the current new season. And it increases the value of the Hulu library, and therefore the value of Comcast's stake in the business.
so Tivo+ is basically doing what roku is doing? Gonna show some c-grade content and take a cut of ad revenue.
...and continue to become more and more irrelevant.
Tivo Plus rolling out today?
So once Hulu is 100% owned by Disney what's the point of keeping it around? Why not just migrate to Disney+ and kill Hulu?
The whole point of Hulu was that it had content from all the big networks, as well as some of the cable networks, all in one place. But now they're all pulling out one by one in favor of their own proprietary apps/services. This is going to end up being a real cluster f*ck when we have every network with their own app, that only works on some devices, and cost $6-$15/mo each.
As far as I am concerned, it is already become a cluster f...k.
It's almost there. I already pay way too much for cable and then another not insignificant amount for like 4-5 different streaming services. It's all a huge PITA.
We are just the opposite. We are primarily OTA and Amazon (mostly because we shop there) an occasional streaming from Philo (to watch Christmas movies- Wife). My Son has Netflix and shares it with us but we rarely watch it. OTA seems to be mostly enough after download and commercial free.
The value of Hulu has seriously diminished for me lately. I used to have the commercial-free version, but that hasn't been worth it to me for months. I only keep it because it was thrown in as part of a Spotify promo this past summer. If that ever ends, I'll re-evaluate. (things aren't looking good for old Hulu.)
The profusion of services is annoying, but we're only at the beginning of the streaming wars. The big guns (i.e. Disney) are just starting to arrive, and bodies are gonna start hitting the floor soon enough.
I've pretty much stopped watching cable and OTA. I spend most of my screen time watching streaming services these days, and I still can’t keep up with everything there is to watch. I've been seriously considering cutting the cord, but my wife is resisting. There are some shows she watches that aren't available via the standard streaming platforms. Maybe one of those skinny bundle type services would work, but those tend to have limitations on their DVR capabilities that she wouldn’t like. (like retention time limits)
I don’t know, I may research this more and see exactly what's available. I think I might be reaching a point where cutting the cord makes sense.