TiVo peanut-like universal remote

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by digitalfirefly, Jan 24, 2006.

  1. digitalfirefly

    digitalfirefly Member

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    Right now I use 2 remotes, the TiVo remote and a One For All 6012. I use the OFA for everything but TiVo fuctions. I love layout of the TiVo controller and have yet to find a universal remote that has a similar key layout. Are there any out there? Here's what it has to have:

    -Backlight
    -TiVo stlye (or close to it) play, pause, FF, and rewind buttons
    -Arrow buttons like the Tivo remote
    -Input switching for my TV
    -Needs to be able to control 4 other devices (TV, Receiver, DVD and Digital Cable Box)

    I searched the forums for about an hour and didn't find another thread lik this, sorry if I missed one already posted. Please post a link if there's a thread like this already.
     
  2. Edmund

    Edmund Remote Czar TCF Club

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    Your 6012 has tivo code its VCR 0618, it doesn't accept advanced codes missing functions like later OFA remotes. If you were to ship it off for an upgrade, they would probably send you back a urc-8820 instead.
     
  3. abobrow

    abobrow New Member

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    I use the MX-500 and love it, but it's not ergonomic like you're looking for. Recently I looked at the Harmony 680 and 676. I may give one of those a try. I did try the 880 and didn't like it. My thumb has to know where the pause and skip buttons are at all times, and that remote didn't pass the test.
     
  4. bobharp

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    I've been very happy with my Harmony 676 . Button layout was not the same but the device is very flexible and easy to set up. Happy hunting.
     
  5. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    Isn't the 6012 just a 6 device 8011? I have the Canadian 8011 (8017), an its layout works well for Tivo, except the Thumbs keys, which I programmed in (it is JP1 enabled, with several upgrades, keymoves, and macros.)
     
  6. digitalfirefly

    digitalfirefly Member

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    The 6012 VCR buttons are very small and hard to destinguish without looking at them unlike the TiVo remote.
     
  7. grooves12

    grooves12 New Member

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    I'm a BIG fan of the URC 6131 ... The discrete code function makes this THE most useful universal remote I have ever owned, surpassing some I paid 10X as much for (or more.) If you get the JP1 modified version, it is even more useful. No backlight, unfortunately, but its not a deal breaker for me, as I can access just about everything by feel.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The Harmony 680 has a button layout that's closer to a real TiVo remote. (i.e. FF, RW, etc... are in the middle rather then along the top row)

    http://home.comcast.net/~p.iott/659vs676vs680.jpg

    Dan
     
  9. toughcrowd

    toughcrowd New Member

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    Why doesn't Tivo make a Universal remote? I've tried every Harmony that has come out and nothing is as well laid out as the Tivo. The buttons on the Harmonys are cheap and non distinct. Finding them without looking at the remote is impossible. You don't even need back lighting on the tivo it's so well laid out. I'd pay Harmony prices for a Tivo learning remote. It's really dumb they haven't come out with one by now. It's also amazing no one has directly copied the layout.
     
  10. Edmund

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    sgraff New Member

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    I agree completely with this! I just bought a Harmony 520 and while I'm happy to have a single remote to control all of my components, I'm very dissatisfied with the button layout, tactile feel of the buttons, and lack of hard buttons for TiVo features (yes, I can set a hard button to a TiVo feature, but it won't pass the wife test since it won't have the correct label - and using the soft buttons for frequent features such as the TiVo button is awful).

    The TiVo peanut remote has great button layout, feel, and weighting. The Harmony remotes are universal (so I can fully control my AV receiver and DVD player) and have great software to program them. The combination of these two would, IMHO, result in the ever elusive perfect remote.

     
  12. tgibbs

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    In my opinion, what makes the TiVo remote superior is the arrangement of the transport controls in a control diamond with the Pause button in the middle, the fast forward/reverse on the sides, the slow immediately below, and the jump forward and back buttons below and to the sides. The different button sizes and shapes makes it simple to orient yourself in the dark, and the arrangement recognizes the importance of the pause button as the most frequently used button on modern video components. Most remotes seem to be locked into the VCR model, with greatest prominence to Play and Stop keys, while the pause button (which was supposed to be used sparingly to preserve VCR tapes) is usually stuck off to the side somewhere.

    Harmony has played around with a bunch of button arrangements, but none of their remotes support the TiVo organization of transport controls. In addition to inconveniently located pause buttons, the most common flaw I've noted with 3rd party remotes, including the Harmony, is the lack of a slow forward button conveniently located with the other transport controls.

    I use a Harmony remote for its convenience in managing multiple devices, but I still miss the transport controls of the peanut.
     
  13. jdmatl

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    ditto vote on the 680. I haven't used my tivo peanuts in 2 weeks. 680 controls both tivo's, receiver and 50" dlp tv.
     
  14. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    Which is kind of what makes the One For All 8011 (and likely others) good for TiVo use. It isn't exactly the same, but it is laid out rather well, and all the buttons for a function are rather alike, but backlit.
    Above the Peanut, Clear is next to the direction pads, making it easy to bulk delete things.
     

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