Tivo "Peanut" Learning remote - Why not?

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  1. stevel

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    Ken has it right - the learning aspect of the remote does away with the problem of the peanut not having "codes" for the latest Malaysian-brand LCD TV, or Home Theater In A Box you picked up at Wal-Mart. In this respect it comes closer to the Sony TiVo remotes which always had this feature. It is not intended as a universal remote replacement.

    And I too prefer the shape and layout of the Sony remotes.
     
  2. stevereis

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    Did anyone notice that the S3 remote shown at CES that megazone photographed,
    is different than the S3 remote shown at TC-con that stevel posted above?


    CES S3 remote (megazone)
    • No DVR 1, 2 switch
    • discrete buttons for 4-way controller
    • light gray buttons
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    TC con S3 remote (stevel)
    • includes DVR 1, 2 switch
    • New 1-button 4-way controller with select button in the middle (you may have to follow the link and look at the higher res image to see this)
    • dark buttons

    [​IMG]
     
  3. jfh3

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    Well, you did!

    Actually, I'm a bit bummed out now, because the return of the 1-2 switch would seem to imply that you can only control two Tivo boxes with one remote. :(
     
  4. maki

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    I certainly hope that "4 way controller" with select in the center is a good feel. I think the select button below the 4 arrows works pretty fluidly as it is but I'll have to just wait and see how the new one works out. Sure looks nice. :)
     
  5. stevel

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    I liked the feel of the S3 remote I photographed. I am not at all astonished that refinements were made in the months since the early prototype shown at CES. What was shown at the TC-Con was pretty much a final version of the hardware.
     
  6. stevereis

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    I was actually happy to see it because I want the ability to control the S3 and my old S2 from the same remote.

    Your response indicates that either you expected it to be able to control more than 2 because it didn't have the switch. Do any of the remotes do that now? How would that work?
     
  7. stevel

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    For the remotes without the switch, there is a series of keypresses you can use to set the remote code. It's rather awkward.
     
  8. jfh3

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    You can do that now with some of the programmable remotes - I have 5 distinct Tivo remote address codes programmed in my Harmony.

    I was hoping that the S3 remote would allow me to replace the Harmony, because most of the time I'm using Tivo controls, though it was too much of a pain to have three remotes to control my boxes.
     
  9. bluesman64

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    How do you program distinct TiVo remote address codes into a Harmony?

    I just got my HR10-250 installed today. I also have, in the same room, an R-10. I use the Harmony 680 universal remote. Since both TiVos use the same remote address (0) as a default, I tried changing the addresses of both (HR10-250 set to 1, R-10 set to 2) using their respective TiVo peanuts. No problem. I then had my Harmony learn the IR signal for each key for each remote hoping that the IR learn mode would carry the remote address along with the key command. No go.

    It appears that the Harmony is "hard wired" with the 0 address and I was not successful in changing the address in either "profile."
     
  10. mick66

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    The peanuts with the dvr 1-2 switch can also be programmed with the same method - that's how you program the codes for the 1-2 switch to begin with. The 1-2 switch is not preconfigured to work with only the 1 and 2 code sets as many people seem to believe. Any of the 10 code sets can be programmed for use with the switch in either position.

    So while a remote with the switch can control 2 tivos w/o having to reprogram it for each one, the switchless remotes can only control one Tivo - but both kinds can be easily reprogrammed at will to control multiple Tivos. The 1-2 switch does not limit that ability as jfh3 seems to think.
     
  11. mick66

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    I had no problem accomplishing this with my Harmony 520. At the Time I had an S1 and two S2 tivos (140 and 540). I set them all up with Harmony as 540's. I used the original remote set to the appropriate code set and the Harmony remote used three sample signals from the original remote and found the code set in Harmony's data base.
     
  12. stevel

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    You use separate remote codes through the Harmony web site. They have codes for at least 1-3 in their database. I don't recall the details of how you select it, though.
     
  13. jfh3

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    When you have 5 distinct Tivos that need to be controlled, a 1-2 switch does indeed limit - you can only control 2 Tivos. I want a Tivo remote that can be used easily on more than two Tivos with distinct remote addresses.

    I have three Tivo remotes with 1|2 switches:

    Remote 1: addresses 2|3
    Remote 2: addresses 1|5
    Remote 3: addresses 4 (DTV remote)

    My Harmony controls all 5.
     
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    This is incorrect as well - by default, the Tivo remotes are set to remote code 0, which will control ANY Tivo. If you are going to use a 1|2 switch, you will need to set each switch position to a distinct remote code and set the corresponding Tivo to response to it.
     
  15. mick66

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    When I said "reprogram" I meant after the initial programing hence the "re"
     
  16. mick66

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    Correct, but my interpretation of your initial statement was that you implied that you were disappointed that the remote had been changed to include the 1-2 switch, limiting it to controling 2 tivos as if the older version w/o the switch was somehow capable of doing more.

     
  17. mick66

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    Harmony has 0-9 in their database
     
  18. jfh3

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    The prototype version of the S3 remote without the switch was billed as a programmable remote. With that, and the lack of the 1|2 switch that would imply only being able to control two distinct Tivos, I expected that the S3 remote could control MORE than two distinct boxes.

    With the return of the 1|2 switch, it doesn't appear that the S3 remote is going to be any more programmable than the current remotes, so I STILL won't be able to use one true Tivo remote to control all my Tivos. That's why I'm disappointed.
     

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