Tivo New Experience (Hydra) Yay/Nay

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Ya that one at the top of guides or recording cuts off for me too but if you select info or more info you can see the full details in TE4.
In TE3 on recording I could not see that even pressing info although I don't think I ever tried pressing info twice.
Could revert back to try it.

 

Well, I have to roll back tomorrow to T3 as wife says she hates the new interface.
happy wife happy life

 

Have you changed the default list settings/options of "My Shows", etc., as well as the sort order? Once I made those changes my wife was fine with it....plus she loves the new autoskip.

Hydra has it's pros/cons, but all the new features/fixes are going into this UI (TE4 experience "aka Hydra") and other changes they make into the future.

Plus rolling back has it's problems too...don't you lose all your shows?

 

Save them to your PC or another box first. And yes, a pain.

 

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Ya I tried all that and rolling back only took me about 15 minutes. I had all shows/passes backed up so total time was only about 1 hour.

 

Here is an example of what I was describing when pushing the info button on long program details/description.
On the T3 side you see at the end where it cuts off: Meanwhile, Andre he...
But on the T4 side it has a whole lot more and is complete: Meanwhile, Andre helps empire by getting help from the last person the Lyons expect and Cookie may never forgive Lucious for what he's done.

 

Wife changed her mind and wants me to put TE4 back on the bolt.
I told her fine I will but I will not revert back to TE3 again.

 

You will if she wants you to.

What made her change her mind, if anything?

 

This just sums up how silly the entire TE3 rollback from TE4 is.

 

I thought maybe she did not like it because things were changed and she did not know how to do everything but did not want to ask me for whatever reason.
So I printed out the TiVo Experience 4.6 Viewer's Guide so she could read what all was changed and how to operate everything on TE4.
After she read up on everything she said OK let's try it again.

 

It's only silly if the features that TiVo did not move forward from TE3 into TE4 are things you don't care about and use/rely on. I'm now on my second week of imposed grid Guide under TE3,* and it simply does not do things as efficiently for me as the Live Guide (and, candidly, is a bit painful to look at and use generally). I would miss effective Suggestions if they no longer were available to me. And I've been doing a great deal of TiVo <-> TiVo and PC <-> TiVo show transfers the past few weeks, which would have been much harder to accomplish, or impossible, under TE4.

Fix those things, and I'm all in!

* I'm trying to get used to it and like it, I really am. I finally cracked for a few minutes earlier today, when I wanted to see a station's schedule for the next week--it was so much easier to use the Live Guide view and clearly see (not in a jumble of stations and listings) a third of a day at a time.

 

Staying on TE3 is a reasonable choice.

It’s more the knee jerk TE3 rollbacks and the constant talking about it that I find silly. Someone who has rolled back to TE3 should just forget about TE4.

I’ve used grid guide since the 80s CableVision cable boxes so I’d imagine switching would not be easy at first. You might be better off using the Mini Guide over Grid Guide if you ever do upgrade to TE4.

 

I haven't been following Hydra too closely - do we know if they're planning to add PC->TiVo transfers in the future? So far that's been the main deal breaker for me, but I'm hoping that's not permanent.

 

So far, no.

BUT, Tivo is apparently investigating with Plex the possibility of integrating local content, like programs appearing in a folder or something like that. It might be the closest thing to a compromise we get.

 

When TE4/Hydra first came out, people here noted the PC -> TiVo box transfer capability lapse and asked/cried, "why?" One of TiVo's reps. explained that this hadn't been a conscious decision as much as something that just had resulted, and stated that the issue would be put on TiVo's list of things to look at (but that it wasn't a priority).

IMHO, the entire TiVo show transfer system needs to be looked at and fixed. The system before just work--it's severely handicapped now. (One needs to leave one's TiVo boxes and separately go to a computer and go online to transfer shows between boxes? Really? (And totally ignoring the fact that TiVo Online is buggy and sometimes simply doesn't work.)

A further sad example of TiVo inexplicably breaking/ignoring things that simply worked before. Show transfers; Suggestions; Live Guide. Fix 'em and get a majority of the rest of us on TE4.

 

That’s assuming it is a priority to get the holdouts into TE4.

 

I keep looking into upgrading to TE4 as well, but am concerned with the speed on my Minis since I have the 92, 93 and 95 versions in my house. I know the 95 will be fine, but the older 4 I don't want slowdowns or need for reboots. I also have a Roamio Plus as the host and just don't want to have any performance impacts.

I know I'd lose Live Guide unfortunately too. But it seems per most feedback that TE4 has gotten a little better with updates along the way.

 

Oh, I never would assume that it would be. And TiVo always can force the "decision." But I also think/wonder that TiVo might actually believe that these users, some of whom might be deemed "power users" or more sophisticated (whatever that means) in their use, might actually have a few points--presumably, many people at TiVo actually use TiVo boxes as well.

 

When I first set up my Bolt Vox, I had to go online to move the one passes and my shows from my XL4. Now, for some reason, everything appears under devices, and I can move shows in both directions the old fashioned way.

 

Hmmm, is that under TE3 or TE4? If under TE4, I wonder if the latest software release restored that capability.