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Tivo mini + wifi bridge

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by Exci, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. Dec 2, 2015 #121 of 146
    akbungle

    akbungle New Member

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    **I took this from a different thread**


    **Update with Mini on 20.5.6**

    Well I don't want to jinx myself but I have been using my TiVo Mini without issue for about 2 hours on my previous wireless bridge that stopped working after streaming for 3-4 minutes ever since the 20.5.4a update.:):cool: Fingers crossed
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2015
  2. Dec 4, 2015 #122 of 146
    videon

    videon New Member

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    Yes! The wireless bridge woes are gone. My Tomato router and Tomato wireless bridge are able to support TiVo mini again. Love the new update - quickPlay.
     
  3. randalltivo

    randalltivo New Member

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    Have open mesh wireless system setup. Plan was to plug bolt into the gateway then plug in the mini's into the bridges/repeater.

    Then I think system will see network connection for bolt and mini's. Is that correct so really no wireless involved or seen by Tivo system, correct?
     
  4. s.lampe

    s.lampe New Member

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    That is correct. The mini isn't aware, as far as its concerned it is hardwired.


     
  5. randalltivo

    randalltivo New Member

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    Hooked up as noted and it works perfectly for streaming and live TV. Not one issue at all. Recorded TV however it works then get error wireless connection too slow. The wireless is Open Mesh 300MPS system so don't understand at all.

    Recorded TV needs more bandwidth?????
     
  6. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    Try this: record 30 minutes of CBS HD. While recording, watch the channel. Then play back the channel. Is there any difference?
     
  7. randalltivo

    randalltivo New Member

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    Still had issue. Live TV was okay on CBS HD. REcorded and got 15 minutes in and had same issue. NOte Gateway Open Mesh and bridge are 15 feet apart and no walls!

    Network cable from Bolt to gateway. The Network cable from gateway back to ATT router.

    Should bolt and gateway rund to sperate router then back to ATT router?

    Or run Network cable back to ATT router and wireless gateway cable back to ATT router?
     
  8. type the text

    type the text New Member

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    I have spent hours with Tivo support. The roamio ota is wired to router and works fine, when I set up my moca bridge the minis display n02 error code in set up. Tivo feels its my router not letting the network connect. I called Linksys support they want to sell me a firewall for $299.99 for three years. That lease they say includes them connecting my moca network to the router. They also have a $99 option for them to fix the issue, apparently without selling me the firewall. Seams to me like extortion. Has any one had and resolved this issue?
     
  9. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    I'd suggest telling everyone more about your specific setup, and maybe something will become more obvious.

    • How are you establishing your MoCA network? (What model MoCA adapter, and how does it connect to your coax lines and back to the Ethernet LAN ports of your router?)

    • Do you have any other working MoCA clients/devices, other than the Minis that are failing w/ the N02 error? How long has your MoCA network been functioning properly, until now?

    • Just to be thorough, you're using the "Connect using MoCA" network setup option for the Minis, correct?

    • As a test, could you connect one of your Minis directly to the router, via Ethernet, and verify that the Mini is able to complete its setup that way?

    • If you have a spare splitter and a couple short coax runs, could you connect a Mini to your coax lines in the same location as your MoCA adapter, to verify the Mini can "connect using MoCA" where the MoCA network most certainly should be accessible?
    p.s. Also...

    • What model is your router?

    • Do you have cable Internet service? If so, what model modem are you using, and how does the modem connect to the provider?

    p.p.s. As an aside, since I don't know where your Minis came from, resetting them back to factory defaults using a 'Clear & Delete Everything' would be worthwhile if they weren't acquired "New."
     
  10. CycleMost

    CycleMost New Member

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    I would like to add that you CAN use a TiVo mini with your Roamio connected via WiFi and the mini on a wired connection. This setup is working great for me, and it will work fine as long as you have a VERY FAST WiFi connection to the Roamio.
     
  11. JoeKustra

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    I think what you're saying is that you need a very fast router. I will attest that is true. I should try to connect my Mini with CAT5 to see how it works. I have never been able to get my Mini to use my basic Roamio when the Roamio is using its internal wireless. But the Mini is on the same floor as the router, and that's something I've never tried.
     
  12. ilovetofu

    ilovetofu New Member

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    I <3 you! New Tivo user here, and my Mini (on wifi extender in bridge mode) kept stuttering while streaming HD content from my Roamio OTA (on ethernet). It was driving me crazy, because streaming SD worked fine. I thought it was my wireless connection, and tried faster wifi extenders (N->AC750->AC1200), but nothing helped. After lots of googling, I came across your post. Enabling IGMP snooping on my Asus RT-AC68U fixed the issue immediately. Thank you for saving me from having to return my Mini!
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2017
  13. Sparky1234

    Sparky1234 Totally

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    I ran the wire to support minis. Always works.

    I did it myself and had most of the stuff on hand like cat 6 wire, connectors, wall plates, plaster, joint compound, tools, paint and skills. Cost $8.03 and about 4 hours.
     
  14. aciurczak

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    Anyone using a mini with the Google Wifi setup yet? I plan to use one by plugging it into the back of one of the pucks. Each of the pucks has 2 gigabit ethernet jacks available. The one I am using typically shows > 100 mb/s over wifi, so I don't expect issues, but will report back if I've been overly optimistic.
     
  15. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    It should work fine. All four of my Mini units use a wireless bridge, as does one Roamio. Symptom of failure would be no host found, or stuttering from the connection being too slow.
     
  16. aciurczak

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    Will have to wait - received Tivo Mini from Amazon today, and it's dead on arrival. White light powers on, but nothing out of the HDMI port, and no response to light from any button press. Multiple cable swaps and multiple TVs, same result. Processing return now.
     
  17. Aug 1, 2017 #137 of 146
    aciurczak

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    short answer: 2nd mini did the trick; all is well
    longer answer: After initial guided setup, it kept failing from the Google Wifi box with a V70 error. I took it to a completely wired connection and it duplicated the error repeatedly. I reconnected the main Tivo to the Tivo service a few times, and after a few more tries the mini eventually connected and worked fine from the wired connection. Not sure if it just took time for my account to be updated online, or some other process that takes a few minutes to kick in. But at that point, I moved it back to the wireless connection via Google Wifi, and it continued to work fine.
     
  18. rconti

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    You CAN, maybe, but that's not the whole story.

    My whole network is Meraki with an 802.11ac access point line-of-sight to my 802.11ac wireless bridge. The TiVo mini (when it works) uses an utterly miniscule fraction of the available bandwidth. My switch is a Ubiquiti managed 24 port 1GbE PoE switch. The Bolt is on wired ethernet.

    When it doesn't work, it never stutters. Not once. Not a dropped packet as far as I can tell. It'll run for hours.

    Typical failure mode is the TiVo Mini announces "Unable to find living room bolt" and it doesn't work if I try to watch My Shows, but if I hit the Live TV it works easily 65% of the time. The other times it doesn't even try. It manifests itself in all kinds of weird ways. You'll be watching live TV no problem, and hit the Guide button, and it'll suddenly announce that it can't find the Bolt it was just playing video from.

    Often a reboot 'fixes' it. There's definitely something very funky going on with how the TiVos work on the network that has nothing to do with wireless bandwidth or connection strength. I'm stubborn, so I keep hoping it'll work rather than run a cable across the room (our whole house is wired for cat6, I just don't have a jack on the right side of the room). But after a few years now, maybe i should just give up :)

    My switch is a Ubiquiti 24 port gig-e switch, and at one point I looked into IGMP snooping; it was *enabled* by default, so I disabled it, which made things work much better.. for awhile.
    Just now I flipped the switch to turn it back on, no change.

    So basically, point is, I keep looking for a magic bullet software fix, and I'm pretty sure if the folks at TiVo wanted to they could fairly easily figure out what's going on with WiFi, but since it's "unsupported", they're not bothering. That's fine, that's their decision, they don't want to deal with a bunch of customers whining about WiFi not working on their janky 10 year old hardware located in a dusty closet the basement.
     
  19. dennya

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    I had sporadic issues with a couple of solutions over the past couple of years -- first 802.11n and then 802.11ac.

    Then I got an Orbi setup, and connected the Mini directly to the Orbi satellite. Haven't had a single connection glitch since then. The Orbi and its satellite(s) communicate on a dedicated 5GHz sideband, and that seems to provide a solid enough signal to make the Mini happyl

    Of course, Orbi's not cheap, so this solution is best if you need an Orbi otherwise. :)
     
  20. Anon1

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    My current setup has a router from brand "X", but I'd like to get an AirPort Extreme and Express for their ease of setup.

    My prospective setup would be:

    Internet (for TiVo updates) --> modem --> router --> wireless --> AirPort Extreme --> Ethernet cable --> TiVo Roamio

    TiVo Roamio --> Ethernet cable--> AirPort Extreme --> wireless LAN (from AE) --> AirPort Express --> Ethernet cable --> TiVo Mini

    Will this work, or do both routers need to be set in bridge mode? I'm just wondering if I'm stuck going with all Apple, or getting non-Apple routers/bridges to go with the current router. Thanks for any input! :)
     

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