Tivo Mini Wifi Adapter

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  1. JoeKustra

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    I found my wireless N and wireless G adapters last week. I still have a Premiere. But I'm not bored enough. Maybe tomorrow I'll try the G just to see it it's recognized. It would be weird if they used the same VID.
     
  2. Daniel Hawk

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    Any difference between the $150 Tivo mini vox on Amazon and the $180 one at Tivo or Weaknees?
     
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  3. Mikeguy

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    I couldn't use my TiVo Wireless G adapter for that: it's still being used to connect my Toshiba Series 2 TiVo box to my network. :p
     
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  4. Mikeguy

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    Without having looked at each site, presumably, it's all the same--there's only one TiVo Mini VOX.
     
  5. Daniel Hawk

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    Thanks. I know which one I’ll buy
     
  6. Mikeguy

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    Do keep your eyes peeled: last year, there was an unannounced* Best Buy special price (but not marketed as a BF special) on the Mini VOX starting on BF (well, the night before), at $130. (If there's a Best Buy in the area and you were looking to purchase now, there could be a benefit to picking the Mini VOX up there, with its current, likewise $150 price, should the price, then, later go down--if BB won't issue a matching-price refund on your earlier purchase, buy the special and return the original simultaneously.) Of course, no guarantee that the Mini VOX price will go down further.

    * But mentioned here by TiVo.
     
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  7. drweb

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    Mike,
    I had an old series 2 with a wireless adapter, loved it, easy as pie. I like the simple connection avenue it affords, nothing wrong with bridge idea and sounds good, but I'm not saying I won't do it that. Perhaps the bridge is easier to do than I'd thought, you make it sound ABC. The other thing is power supply. I would have a strip nearby, so power should be accessible.
    Last point: would be go to have a speed/streaming test done on both setups 1) wifi bridge setup and 2) new wireless adapter for Mini VOX. Their Amazon "ad" or description suggests that "For best performance, your host DVR should be connected to your home network using a wired Ethernet connection." My BOLT is on wireless connection, so I don't know how good a signal the Mini VOX would get. The other room is about 50 feet away from the living room setup. Thanks for the input.
    Best,
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  8. Mikeguy

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    @JoeKustra would have good advice for you on the Bolt box on wireless connection issue (yeah, I saw TiVo, on the new wireless adapter, recommending--but not requiring--that the master TiVo box be connected to the home network by wire). All I can say is, many people have been successful with a totally wireless TiVo box/Mini system up to now; others have had issues. It's very specific to the local circumstances. Presumably, the better/stronger one's home network is (e.g. good router, lesser barriers or home construction obstructing the wireless signal, etc.), the better the chances of success.
     
  9. JoeKustra

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    Three factors I consider when using a wifi bridge (I've given up on grammar & spelling). First is speed. My TiVo boxes except for the Stream and VOX are 100Mbps Ethernet. My internet is also 100Mbps, but I may drop it back to 40Mbps. My benchmark program is speedtest.net which is popular. My router has it built-in. I get the 100/10 speed 24/7 from my provider. No slow periods. No noise. No modem or TiVo errors. After a month I may have a few corrected blocks on my modem, but I haven't had an error on my TiVo boxes in years. In the morning (now) I use my laptop via a wired 1Gbps connection to the router. Also wired is the Stream and one basic Roamio. My kitchen has an A93 Mini and smart TV using a RE6500 bridge. I use it for about an hour every morning. My bedroom has an A93 Mini (2) and Mini VOX. The A93 runs about 10 hours per day viewing live TV. The Mini VOX is just used for testing and connects via a DAP-1650. Yesterday it ran 6 hours on live TV. Both of these Mini have run YouTube for 6 hours without errors. The DAP-1650 also serves a smart TV.

    My main viewing/living space is small. But it contains a Premiere, PC, Blu-Ray, Roku Ultra, a TE3 Roamio and a TE4 Roamio. The Blu-ray, TV, and Roku use their internal 2.4Ghz wireless. My router is directly below this room. I use a TP-Link R580D bridge which is a pretty simple device. I'm not a TP-Link fan, but they have improved a lot. It is fed by a PC, the Premiere, both Roamio boxes and my AVR. Now the bottom line. On that PC, which goes through a bridge to my router has a benchmark on speedtest.net of 100Mbps down and 10Mbps up. IOW, no loss of speed due to the use of wireless. I can transfer programs between Roamio boxes at just over 93Mbps. One Roamio records NBC, CBS and Comedy Central. The other does everything else. None have their original drives either. There's a 1TB drive in one and 3TB in the others.

    I don't have disconnects or dropouts. This system was designed to run two houses. My sister lives next door and was a snow bird until this year when she decided to stay in FL. I had three Mini boxes next door, all on wireless bridges. I would keep them running when she was away by using them weekly in my bedroom.

    Cooling: the most active A93 Mini has a 120mm fan on top with an air filter. All the Roamio boxes have AC Infinity fans that keep the temps down.

    Two years ago it was impossible to have a Roamio use its internal wireless to host a Mini. That has changed and while I don't do it, it might work now. Same with a Bolt.

    You caught me in a chatty mood. :) If I haven't asked yet, what model is your router?
     
  10. Wayoverpar1

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    Joe, I get a lot of great information from your informative posts, thank you. I'm using a Netgear R7900P router with 2 Bolt's and a A95 mini on ethernet connections. I'm going to hook up my older A93 to an area of the house that doesn't have ethernet and will only see about 1 hour of use per day. I am leaning towards the RE6500 or a Netgear WAC104 (lower price) for this set up. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
     
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  11. JoeKustra

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    My method is to Google the model number. The first page shows the "sponsored" ads which can be used for price comparison. Besides the RE6500, I have used the DAP-1650 (pretty), WUMC710, TEW-800MB, EX7000. Your router is very good. The more antenna the better. As for the A93, it seems ok for live TV with TE4, but not so good for streaming. I have run 3 Mini on live TV (HD) on the R8000 router at the same time. It has the power & speed. But disable QoS. It has bugs.
     
  12. Wayoverpar1

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    Poor streaming with the A93 on TE4 is why I bought the A95, plus I got a butt-kicking deal on Facebook Marketplace. The TV that I will use the A93 for will basically be for Live TV and recorded material for about an hour a day.
     
  13. donnlewis

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    Got my Tivo wifi adapter today from weaknees via Amazon and configured it on a new Mini VOX. Took me a couple of false starts to get the wifi part configured (you have to configure on ethernet first) but after all was said and done, it seems to work very well.
     
  14. JoeKustra

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    I don't understand the "Ethernet first" comment. I thought the wifi 5 was USB only.
     
  15. Myrtledog

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    I’d like some clarification on this too. Mine is on it’s way and I’d like to hear your setup experience...
     
  16. jaselzer

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    I set up my adapter and the wifi set up is straight forward. Just go into the Mini's settings-network-and turn on wifi. There is nothing unusual about the process. I am guessing the OP really meant that you have to go and turn on Wi-Fi in the settings. That it just doesn't pop up on the screen after you plug in the adapter.
     
  17. donnlewis

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    I believe I can shed some light....

    I believe a new in-the-box Mini VOX does not ship with firmware support for the wifi adapter. You must first connect it via ethernet, connect to Tivo to update the Mini VOX firmware, and then and only then (after reboot with the new firmware) can you configure the Mini VOX for the new wifi adapter.
     
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  18. JoeKustra

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    That sounds very TiVo-like.
     
  19. Mikeguy

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    Perhaps, ideally going forward, newly-manufactured and shipped MiNi VOX boxes will have the WiFi capability pre-installed? The current situation understandable (but regrettable) for Mini VOX boxes already in the consumer's hands/out of TiVo's.
     
  20. JoeKustra

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    My Mini Vox is on v5 and there is Ethernet and MoCA. Perhaps the presence of the adapter causes WiFi to display?
     

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