TIVO Mini Can't Connect to my TIVO Box in livingroom.

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  1. armyrctr0

    armyrctr0 Member

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    It's raining now. So to make sure I understand-I need to find out which of the cables goes into the room with the Mini. After I figure that out, what then. Do I hook anything up any differently, or just change hardware as you expalined? It seems everything is connected the right way.
     
  2. armyrctr0

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    Also, there are three coax runs, but there are four rooms in my house with television. So one of them has to go to to two rooms. Is that right?
     
  3. armyrctr0

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    I also could not hook up the Roamio in the new way. I thought I had a three way splitter, but I don't. I'll have to pick one up tomorrow.
     
  4. krkaufman

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    You can skip the 3-way splitter, for now, I'd think. (In favor of waiting to place a larger order of MoCA-compatible splitters.)

    I'm assuming you had 3 2-way splitters in that setup, before, and now just 2. Yes? The Roamio could be directly connected to an output of the initial splitter within the room, and then the other splitter cascaded from the second output. (Super short-term, you could probably even get away with just powering-down the MoCA adapter to be removed and keep the Roamio connected via coax as-is, only switching its Ethernet connection to the router LAN.)
     
  5. krkaufman

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    It would seem so, and so that may complicate matters if the additional splitter cannot be found.
     
  6. armyrctr0

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    I do. But I just ordered Holland splitters and they will be here Thursday.
     
  7. armyrctr0

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    I do. But I just ordered Holland splitters and they will be here Thursday.
     
  8. krkaufman

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    Note that you can test the Mini prior to deploying it to its permanent location.

    Ethernet :: Provided a video connection for the Mini, you can connect the Mini temporarily at the Roamio/router location and connect the Mini via Ethernet to a router LAN port, to verify its basic functionality and ensure that its software is up-to-date.

    MoCA :: And once you're confident in the Mini's Ethernet functionality, you can try a similar, simple direct-connect test for MoCA, to verify the Mini's MoCA hardware/software is functional. To test basic MoCA connectivity with the rest of your residence's coax plant out of the equation...
    1. Temporarily move the Mini to the main bridging MoCA adapter's location and direct-connect the the Mini and MoCA adapter via a single coax cable, and ensure that the Mini's video output is viewable. (You'll be disconnecting the MoCA adapter from the rest of the coax plant and connecting it via coax only to the Mini.)

    2. With the MoCA adapter still connected via Ethernet to the router, acting as a MoCA bridge, you should be able to configure the Mini, connected only via the coax cable, for a MoCA client connection and quickly confirm MoCA connectivity.

    3. Once connected, the Mini should be able to make TiVo service connections, stream from Internet services, and play live or previously recorded TV content -- same as if connected via Ethernet.

    After you're done testing, restore the MoCA adapter's connection to the coax plant and give the Mini a try at its permanent location -- or any of the other coax wall outlet locations. Maybe one of the others works better.

    edit: p.s. As an afterthought, you also could have tested the Mini's MoCA functionality by simply connecting it where the second MoCA adapter was previously connected and working, off the splitter output, rather than doing the direct-connect via the remaining MoCA adapter.
     
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  9. armyrctr0

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    Thanks. I'll try that when I get home.
     
  10. krkaufman

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    Can you have your kid shimmy up into the attic, under supervision (given Spring/Summer heat), to find the coax entry point at the eaves and then see if they can locate the additional split(s)?
     
  11. armyrctr0

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    Will do. It will have to be later when I get home from work. It's a late one for me and I won't be home until about 8 p.m. (CST), but it's still light out. I'll have him check then, or I may go up.
     
  12. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Whenever is convenient; TCF isn’t going anywhere.
     
  13. armyrctr0

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    OK I just tracked it. The one cable that's not in the loop is the one that is going to the living-room. The modem, the router, and the Roamio. The other two are going to the four bedrooms.
     
  14. krkaufman

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    I thought the main goal of tracing the cable in the attic was to find the mystery splitter that was allowing 3 coax runs to reach 4 rooms:

    But now it seems there are actually 5 rooms with TV access, and so 2 mystery splitters to locate. Did you find where the 2 coax runs have additional splitters?
     
  15. armyrctr0

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    No, those are under a ton of fiberglass
     
  16. krkaufman

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    Bummer.
     
  17. armyrctr0

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    My Holland splitters come in today as well as a new Holland POE filter. I'll try replacing the hardware with the new stuff.

    When I traced the cables I noticed the only new cable was the one the cable installer installed leading to my living-room since it's laying on top of the insulation. It appears the other two that split have been there since the house was built since they are under all the insulation. What I believed the instalker did was cut the satellite connections under the wave and spliced them into his box. Hence the three coax cables. I'm pretty sur hee didn't want to deal with the mess that's up there on top of the cables so he used them since he knew they went into the rooms.
     
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    That's my theory (and concern), as well, but he didn't have to cut them, from what your pics indicate. It looks like he just disconnected the in-house runs from the IN/OUT ports of the two Holland STVC diplexers (red-labeled splitter-like components) under the eaves and used barrel connectors to join those two runs to the lines coming from the new cable box. The diplexers make me curious as to what happened to the antenna runs that would have been connected to their VHF/UHF ports, but that's immaterial to your solution.

    Anyway, fingers crossed that the new MoCA-friendly components boost the performance and get you working. But there's still concern that the two mystery splitters could be MoCA-hostile.
     
  19. armyrctr0

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    OK, I got home and the stuff was not here. I called Amazon and they said it was delivered. They're sending it out again and should be here Saturday.
     
  20. krkaufman

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    If it ain’t one thing, it’s another...

    p.s. Obviously, check with the fam to make sure nobody else reeled it in.
     

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