TiVo Loses 163,000 Subscribers In October ‘08 Quarter

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  1. Dec 15, 2008 #81 of 131
    wkearney99

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    So upgrade the box to something current. Tivo's offered various upgrades from time to time. Take advantage of it and get with the current hardware and software.
     
  2. Dec 15, 2008 #82 of 131
    wkearney99

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    Ah, the old defraud the company for your own gain scheme, eh?
     
  3. Dec 15, 2008 #83 of 131
    MickeS

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    Many companies encourage that as part of the perks.
     
  4. Dec 16, 2008 #84 of 131
    jmace57

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    <ding><ding><ding> I'll bet you nailed it janry!

    Jim
     
  5. Dec 16, 2008 #85 of 131
    ciper

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    I think this discussion/post is relevant http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6924731#post6924731

    Basically because of a missing feature in the Tivo it creates significant extra monthly charges on top of its subscription fee.
     
  6. Dec 19, 2008 #86 of 131
    wkearney99

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    And you do realize that's taxable income, don't you?
     
  7. Dec 19, 2008 #87 of 131
    lew

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    Tivo requires a 12 month comittment, in part to cover hardware subsidies. Your idea would probably require a 24-36 month comittment. Tivo would have spend $$$ to handle the upfront costs and would have to spend money trying to collect termination fees from former customers. Tivo would probably have to include repairs in the monthly price. I assume your $18 figure includes hardware and service? I'm not sure if $6 a month is enough for hardware.

    My guess is tivo still wouldn't be able to compete with cable companies for those customers that are looking for the cheapest DVR solution. Cable companies can "bundle price" and don't have any incremental cost in supplying guide data.

    Tivo is sort of trying your idea with the Comcast program. You pay for tivo software on provider supplied boxes.



     
  8. Dec 23, 2008 #88 of 131
    will592

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    I get my numbers from Cox in Phoenix. When I dropped their HD DVR from my bill the total went down $28 (and change) a month. Digital Gateway service fee, HD fee (What?), DVR fee, DVR Rental. There was a time when it was a $10/month option for me but as they got people hooked they went ahead and cranked up the cost. I'd say you're lucky that your bill is so low, hope it stays that way for you.

    Chris
     
  9. Dec 24, 2008 #89 of 131
    SnakeEyes

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    Digital gateway+digital box fee is $10/mo, DVR service is $9.95/mo with Mediacom.

    So that is more than the cost of the TiVo service + $1.99 cable card rental.
     
  10. Dec 28, 2008 #90 of 131
    johnner1999

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    same here with CableVision -- cost for two HD DVR's from them is $38 a month LOL

    and thats for that ****** 8300HD box... I told the rep they would need to pay me $38 a month to use them ;-)
     
  11. Dec 28, 2008 #91 of 131
    ZeoTiVo

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    the question to get the real difference in price though is
    What will be the total charges if you request a cable card

    The cable company may well tack back on
    digital outlet fee
    HD outlet fee
    etc..
     
  12. Dec 28, 2008 #92 of 131
    HerronScott

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    The good news with Comcast is that at least on the primary outlet there are no additional charges beyond the $2.00 for the second cableCARD that my Series 3 requires. It looks like at least in our area, if you go with their DVR that there is a $6.95 DVR service fee on the primary outlet and then perhaps an $8.95 HD/DVR rental charge.

    Scott
     
  13. Dec 28, 2008 #93 of 131
    SnakeEyes

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    I have a cable card. I just told you. It's $1.99

    Those fees are tied, whether rightly or wrongly, with something the box provides such as Mediacom saying the digital gateway fee is for the guide data. That doesn't come with a cable card.
     
  14. Dec 29, 2008 #94 of 131
    ZeoTiVo

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    rude much? Obviously my post was about if there are any fees beyond the cable card fee. Those need to be factored in as well. Such charges will vary by region.
     
  15. Dec 29, 2008 #95 of 131
    MichaelK

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    so we're supposed to pay taxes when we get free plane tickets from miles earned during business travel?


    yikes....
     
  16. Dec 29, 2008 #96 of 131
    SnakeEyes

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    And you quoted me. And as I said, there aren't any.

    If you were speaking in general and not specifically about me then you shouldn't have quoted me.
     
  17. Dec 29, 2008 #97 of 131
    bigpuma

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    I wish my dad's cable company would charge $1.99 per card. He pays $6.95 per card. Of course it is still better than paying $16.95 they wanted for their own DVR.
     
  18. Dec 29, 2008 #98 of 131
    MichaelK

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    it's it 6.95 for cablecard or some combination of cablecard and addtional outloet fees?

    At one time I paid a 2$ cablecard fee and a $4.95 addtional outlet fee.

    if there's a line item for cablecard that says 6.95 I'd file a complaint at the FCC that it's excessive.

    Many moons ago i read someplace that the FCC threatened cable with regulation of cablecard fees if they charged excessive amounts. It was some years ago and I beleive at the time the FCC suggested that up to $2 was reasonable. If you go back in time- for many years all the cable company's were at 2 bucks or below. Some have since pushed to 3 or 4. But if you are indeed paying a ~7 dollar fee then I think a complaint would get they FCC to say that's unreasonable. Not sure anything FAST would occur but one day in like 12 years i'm sure the fee would drop.:)

    addtionaly outlet fees appear to be fair game with whatever the market will bear.


    (unfortunately for the life of me I've never found the reference again)
     
  19. Dec 29, 2008 #99 of 131
    bigpuma

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    I haven't actually looked at his bill so I really don't know. That is what he was told the cards would cost.
     
  20. MichaelK

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    I'm going to vote they call it 2 bucks or so for a card and the remainder is addtional outlet fee.

    I know it's semantics (I'm getting hosed with the 2 cards and 2 outlet fees on each of my two S3's)- but to the FCC it's apparently ok to do.
     

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