TiVo Launches $50 Streaming Video Player to Take On Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by mbernste, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. cwoody222

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    Got mine yesterday afternoon after FedEx sat on it for 2 days.

    It's a strange little device. Full disclosure: I'm not a big Google services user and usually don't like Google stuff and find it unintuitive. I have an original Chromecast in a drawer somewhere but that's really all I've used of their TV products.

    Setup was mostly OK. The wall wart is too big to fit behind my mounted TV so I'm using the USB to power, which I realize is not recommended. I have a Vizio with CEC enabled but so far no issues with a ghost turning on my TV. And my set has a history of doing this even before the Stream!

    The remote would not pair with my device at first. I had to continuously do the remote setup a few times to get it to "stick". As reported, no soundbar support is a disappointment. But for $50, I don't expect a premium remote.

    Why didn't setup ask me to set my output? I spent some time plugging it into different HDMI ports (not easy on my mounted set) because I couldn't get it to output 2160p. Turns out it was only set for 1080p in the AndroidTV settings :(

    Search is clunky... it's not even a TiVo search, it's just Google?! And it's not limited to shows? Searching for Amazon's "Homecoming" prompted me for "homecoming dresses". I don't care for that. Then you have to go BACK into the Stream app to add shows? It's a weird experience to bounce back and forth like that.

    I know some don't like Hydra but I wish the Stream app looked MORE like Hydra to bring some additional consistency. Aside from remote, I don't get a TiVo-feel from the Stream app.

    I wish the Stream had integration with more apps. This isn't really many more than they have now. (I don't use, nor intend to, SlingTV) And I can't get Amazon to work - just brings me to their home screen every time. No way to browse EPISODE lists besides going into individual apps? That's less than my TiVo Roamio offers.

    Picture quality was good. I'm not bothered by the oversaturation people have complained about with the auto HDR.

    The device is snappy but I've had it flicker to black screen a few times and once the AndroidTV menu refused to open when I hit that button. I had to long-press the button to get a quick-view menu for apps.

    My FireTV Cube has become very laggy after some recent updates so I'm looking to replace that. I can't remove it completely because it is my Alexa in that room and controls my TV but we'll see if I use it less. It was my exclusive streamer for that TV set beside using Netflix app on my Vizio just for Dolby Vision. But I can switch Netflix to the Stream for that.

    I'll be curious to see what future updates bring... For $50, it's a good little toy.
     
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  2. cybergrimes

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    unless I'm not understanding you-- from the show screen select "Episodes" on the top row
    then browse all the episodes, then pick the service to use for playback of that episode

    so far Prime Video just opens the app, Hulu and I think Netflix have launched straight to the episode

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  3. cybergrimes

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    I haven't seen anyone mention in but in the system settings menu there's an area for Google Assistant, in here you can enable/disable individual apps for inclusion in search. It doesn't omit everything, for example there isn't an option to disable YouTube. Those are results Google wants you to see I suppose.
     
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  4. zyzzx

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    Does the Stream app track watched episodes or seasons? I don’t see much benefit from the My Shows other than a tile for each show I have watched already, or am currently watching, or might want to watch. It doesn’t seem to track my viewing of each show. Am I missing something? I want My Shows to remove a show’s tile when I’ve completed the most recent season, then re-add the tile when a new season is released. Otherwise, My Shows is mostly useless.

    Also, I originally had my Samsung TV CEC turned on but the Stream steals the HDMI input so I turned off TV CEC. Now my ARC back to my Yamaha receiver doesn’t work. I had no problem with the Roku doing HDMI switching correctly.
     
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  5. cybergrimes

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    Need to play with it more. I did add a show that had no episodes available from my sources and it did NOT show up in My Shows.
    I also launch a show in Disney+, it shows on the main page as recently watched but not seeing anything to indicate it knows which episodes have been viewed. That would be hard I think.
     
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  6. BillyClyde

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    Being oversaturated isn’t how it’s supposed to present itself if HDR or Dolby Vision are forced. It’s supposed to just remap the HD color space into the UHD one, maintaining the same colors, but leaving the extra space for use when you actually do play an HDR or Dolby video. You may see some results of the dynamic range changing, but not colors.

    From what I’ve read and my experience, if it’s oversaturated then it’s not setup or calibrated right.
     
  7. GBK33

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    has anyone heard any news of the reported update that is supposed to come sometime today?
     
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  8. jimpmc

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    Source? This is the first I've heard of that.
     
  9. babsonnexus

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    Nope, see TiVo Stream 4K: Path to Perfection, it is on the bug list.
     
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  10. cybergrimes

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    I think in one of the YouTube videos it's mentioned, someone who was testing before release

    Looks like this one, mentions a Tuesday update at end of video
     
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  12. Paul Billings

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    I was hoping to use Dish Anywhere with this, but I can't get closed captioning to work. I've tried just about every permutation of closed captioning options available on the device, and nothing works. If if hit the center enter button on the remote and hold it, closed captioning turns on for about 10 seconds, but an overlay on the right 1/3 of the screen for options for turning CC on or off stays on the screen once I left my finger off the center enter button, and CC disappears. Of course, I first activated CC in the Dish Anywhere settings, but that doesn't seem to have any effect.
     
  13. Jim1348

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    I had read that, too, a couple of days ago. Hopefully, they will do an update today and it will resolve some issues.
     
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  14. cwoody222

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    That guy is a beta tester. If anything, he knows when THEY are getting an update.

    Can’t believe they’re allowing a tester to continue in the program while he’s just putting out YouTube videos.
     
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  15. TonyTheTiger

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    The NDA on the HARDWARE has been lifted, but is still in place for software betas (or so I was told!).

    Tuesday is certainly the day for updates and I think beta testers also get them, but they get later, pre-release software to test before the genpop gets it.
     
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  16. aprest

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    My Review of TiVo Stream 4K

    1. I have three Roku Ultras, one Roku Stick +, a TCI TV with integrated Roku and an Apple TV 4K. I also have a Fire Stick 4K which is now in a drawer because I did not like it. I now have a TiVo Stream 4K to compare to my other streamers.

    2. In my recent testing, the TiVo Stream 4K does not perform as well as the Roku Ultras or Apple TV 4K but does provide a great way for casting videos from my computer.

    a. I buy a lot of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disks from Amazon that come with a digital movie code that I redeem on Vudu or Movies Anywhere. I spend a lot of time watching the streaming digital movies while I am on my treadmill. The Roku Ultra and Apple TV 4K play the UHD 4K movies extremely well. The TiVo Stream 4K does not provide UHD 4K streaming with Vudu or Movies Anywhere. You only get HD streams with no ATMOS sound when using the Vudu and Movies Anywhere apps.​

    b. The TiVo Stream 4K is unique in that it offers a Nest app that would allow me to view my Nest cameras on my TV. Unfortunately, I can’t sign into my Nest account. I tried over and over again but my User ID and Password failed to enable the app.​

    c. The app screen of the TiVo Stream 4K is not nearly as intuitive or user friendly as those for the Roku Ultra or the Apple TV 4K. In addition, I was not able to reorder the location of apps on the TiVo app screen as I can easily do on the Roku Ultras.​

    d. I am having the problem of the TiVo Stream 4K device randomly turning on my TV and receiver and changing the HDMI input. I did turn off CEC on my Samsung TV, and will see if that helps.​

    e. I have Chromecast installed on my TVs. However, there is no remote that can control what is being cast to the TV. There have been rumors that Google was going to release a new Chromecast device with a remote. The TiVo Stream 4K provides casting capability and its remote can control the volume as well as the forward, pause and reverse of the movie being cast. Thus, I will retire my Chromecast device soon.​
     
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  17. SugarBowl

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    The nest app works good for me. Do you have a NEST account, or a google account? There is a nest app for apple tv, and I read somewhere that updating to a google account breaks the apple tv app.

    FAQs about accounts for the Nest app - Google Nest Help
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    Once you migrate your account, you will no longer be able to use the Nest app on Apple TV or on Android TV.
     
  18. mrizzo80

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    As mentioned above, it’s odd that the google search is not limited to movies and tv shows.

    Also, the Hulu integration could be better, but I think the issue might be on Hulu’s end since my Firestick basically does the same thing. I’m not really interested in tracking individual episodes, so I’m fine with just having a tile for that. But when I click that, the OTT provider should just figure out where I’m at and play from there. Hulu shows start with the first episode available, which defeats the point of “my shows” if it doesn’t pick up where you left off.

    For those that want it to track episodes watched, I doubt that is coming. It never came to OnePass on the DVRs to my knowledge. The OTT provider would have to expose your watch history for that to even be possible for TiVo to attempt to do. But if they can pull that off, great.
     
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  19. moyekj

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    Reelgood app allows you to manually mark what you've watched at least which is probably the only way it can work reliably for any title. I've switched to that app for aggregation and marking what I've watched and what is still left to watch, and I re-mapped TiVo button on the remote to launch that app instead of TiVo since it works much better and has much more complete streaming title information.
     
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  20. MichaelCoffin

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    Damnit! Fedex lost my Stream 4K shipment! :(
     

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