TiVo Launches $50 Streaming Video Player to Take On Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV

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  1. Jan 7, 2020 #41 of 503
    blacknoi

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    As a prior poster said, it'd be so cool if they could get HDHomeRun integration too... heck for that matter (since they already have the slingTV "in") why not also support the AirTV hardware as a way to feed it live-tv?

    C'mon Rovi/Tivo/whoever you are in the future....
     
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  2. Jan 7, 2020 #42 of 503
    blacknoi

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    I hear you, I actually beta tested their Osprey box (got one free), and then bought 2 more off ebay thinking I'll eventually go away from Altice so I'm with you... but I just love the Tivo Interface so much more and the wife acceptance factor is difficult to change GUIs.

    The Osprey box is nice, a bit clunky/slow but once you get used to the cadence of pressing buttons a bit slower, it is consistent. They also allow for live stream pause buffering on their box (although presently its limited to about 2 minutes, vs Tivo's 30 minutes) but its going in the right direction as you can fully FF / Rew within the [limited] buffer.
     
  3. Jan 7, 2020 #43 of 503
    mobilelawyer

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    This device has potential. If it is a re-badged AirTV Mini with new software, that may be good thing. I have that device and it is a good little performer. Which providers are going to be cooperating with this venture? That is the key. If the majors all hop in, this could be the most exciting $50 device we've ever seen!
     
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    NashGuy

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    That's good to hear. I'm strongly considering switching my parents over from DISH (and Comcast broadband), which they've been on for years, to AT&T TV + Fiber once AT&T TV becomes available nationwide next month. I'm mainly just concerned about how reliable the service will be. Have you found AT&T TV Now to be buggy lately, used in conjunction with the Osprey?
     
  5. Jan 7, 2020 #45 of 503
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Suspected it would be a licensed platform. If true, then it should be capable of native mpeg2 playback and wouldn't have to require transcoding to function as a Mini -- IF/When they eventually get around to it.
     
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  6. Jan 7, 2020 #46 of 503
    NashGuy

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    Yeah, I'm wondering whether or not TiVo has actually nailed down agreements with Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, HBO, etc. to participate in TiVo's UI on this device that integrates all those sources for easy tracking, browsing and searching of content across providers. Maybe they're just showing at CES what they *hope* it will look like at launch if all those key apps opt-in?

    So far, I don't think any of the major players has achieved that on any streaming device. Apple has come closest with their TV app but Netflix refuses to fully participate.
     
  7. Jan 7, 2020 #47 of 503
    NashGuy

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    I *think* that the hardware (dongle) used by both the AirTV Mini and the TiVo Stream 4K is a turnkey platform that Google had created to offer as a simple off-the-shelf option to encourage third parties to quickly get to market with their own Android TV devices.
     
  8. Jan 7, 2020 #48 of 503
    Mikeguy

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    I assume no, or TiVo would be touting it now? One of the articles stated that TiVo only currently has an "official partner" deal with Sling TV. "The caveat here is that TiVo isn’t yet providing an official list of services that will appear in the Stream 4K guide. While the company has demonstrated tie-ins with Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, and HBO, right now Sling TV is the only official partner."
     
  9. Jan 7, 2020 #49 of 503
    srazook

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    It’s too bad they choose Sling TV as their preferred subscription TV partner for streaming live TV. Sling doesn’t have any local channels! YouTube TV and Hulu Live much better services, hopefully you’ll also have the option to access them.
     
  10. Jan 7, 2020 #50 of 503
    NashGuy

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    Right. I think I read that same article, which is what prompted my post which you quoted. Hopefully TiVo does have the tie-ins with those streaming apps in place -- I assume such an arrangement would merely be an extension of the relationships that they already have for OnePass. (I also hope that they keep the streaming content database better updated for the Stream 4K than they used to for OnePass back when I had a Roamio OTA...)
     
  11. Jan 7, 2020 #51 of 503
    NashGuy

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    You can download the YouTube TV and Hulu apps from the Google Play Store on the TiVo Stream 4K. It's just that your use of those live streaming TV services will be contained inside their own apps (just the same as if you used those apps on a Roku).

    With Sling, the service feeds into TiVo's own UI, so you can access Sling's live channels as well as the TiVo+ free channels from TiVo's own grid guide.
     
  12. Jan 7, 2020 #52 of 503
    kiadontknow

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    If this is Android TV then the AndroidTV app promised last year will work on it. And since Tivo already has an Android app, Android certainly has the capability to stream from a Bolt\Edge.

    But Stream4k vs a Tivo Mini Vox, Stream4k is a no-brainer.
     
  13. Jan 7, 2020 #53 of 503
    d_anders

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    From this particular article, it's pretty clear you can use whatever TV app is available from the Google Play Store.

    CES 2020: TiVo Enters the Streaming Fray, Teams With Sling TV | Light Reading

    So, the ability to use Youtube TV and access Disney+ will be available from the start (albeit just as an individual "app")...the real point is on "integration" within the TiVo UI & Search. Given that the voice integration is using Google Assistant with API tie-ins into the TiVO UI, I assume the same voice assistance may be able to discover and access content from any standard play-store "apps" that tie into Google Assistant and Android TV api's already on their own?

    For $50, I'll be glad to play. And the fact they plan to raise the price to $69, I'll get it upon release.

    The only real disappointment is that it won't pull from existing TiVo DVRs and provide "Mini" like functionality. The only thing that is noted in the article is that functionality is "in the roadmap". I assume they wanted to focus first and foremost on cloud live tv and cloud dvr with a partner that likely is going to give them money for every subscriber.
     
  14. Jan 7, 2020 #54 of 503
    Dan203

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    If it could replace the Mini I'd get one. As of right now it's just another $50 streaming "stick" with a slightly different UI.
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    We were promised Apple TV, Roku, and Fire TV apps. This android platform is it's own separate 4th entity and does not yet hook into the DVRs, per Tivo's comments to cnet.
     
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    srazook

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    I hope they come up with a way to receive local channels and integrate them into the TiVo UI & Search.
     
  17. Jan 7, 2020 #57 of 503
    Scooter Scott

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    This is where they should have focused all along....they are definitely playing catch-up with this device.

    It's a huge disappointment that they don't have the functionality to hook into their own DVR equipment yet. That almost seems like it should have been priority #1....
     
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  18. Jan 7, 2020 #58 of 503
    Wayoverpar1

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    Personally I would rather have seen a Roku Tivo. This would end all the streaming issues with current units and create a product people would want to purchase. I'm sure there are legal and financial issues that probably prevent this from happening. Just wishful thinking on my part.
     
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    cwoody222

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    Maybe for cord-cutters. But for cable subs with existing TiVo DVRs this offers nothing much of interest.
     
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    cwoody222

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    Who said I want to be forced? I just want the option.

    I just find it odd that only Sling offers ZERO locals in my area.
     

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