TiVo Launches $50 Streaming Video Player to Take On Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV

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  1. jaselzer

    jaselzer Active Member

    Sep 10, 2018
    TiVo dongle leads to Sony releasing an OEM Sony 8K Android based with TiVo built in. This is where TiVo hopes to be imho.

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  2. dstoffa

    dstoffa Member

    Dec 14, 2005
    New York, NY
    My HD Home Run is an HD Home Run Extend. It is just a tuner. (The "Extend" has a built in h.264 transcoder to reduce the burden on streaming its content.) My unit does not support cable card, but does support clearQAM.

    Channels is the app you can watch what the tuner tunes.

    The HD Home Run is a device on your LAN. You can locate it anywhere in your house, but it needs to connect to your LAN. It needs a video source (either an antenna or Cable (CableCard Required for anything that is encrypted).

    I plan to build a Plex Media Server, which can take control of the HD Home Run. I'd be able to watch content on the PMS outside my home.
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    I like this as a streaming box just for the remote alone. If it can support Ethernet via the USB port and has some Alexa integration (like the Mini does now) then I'll probably get one. My biggest issues with the Apple TV were the remote sucked and it had zero Alexa integration, so I swapped to a fireTV stick. That has great Alexa integration but the remote is only so so. It's better than the Apple TV, but the button placement is a bit cramped and weirdly laid out.
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  4. foghorn2

    foghorn2 Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2004
    Las Vegas
    Do you think the remote pictured is really whats gonna be shipped? Why the num keys unless its going to control a legacy tivo dvr?
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  5. thyname

    thyname Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2010
    N. Virginia
    Re: Sling TV on this --- does it mean that Sling Tv interface is based on TiVo and will have TiVo Guide and UX?
  6. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
    Does any AndroidTV STB have Alexa support?
  7. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

    Apr 2, 2005
    good question. I was wondering about the number keys too. Why do they need them?

    Then I figured they are for Sling. But ...Sling doesn't number their channels though right? Maybe they could though.

    Or maybe the number keys could let users type letters quicker using that old cellphone texting method. That would be handier for search.

    But mostly I don't (see) the point of them. Even on Tivo I barely used my number keys.
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2020
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  8. foghorn2

    foghorn2 Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2004
    Las Vegas
    Sling does not use channel numbers, not even for Locals, the only time you see the numbers is when you set up the OTA channels after a scan. For locals you get a logo or the station call letters.
  9. NashGuy

    NashGuy Well-Known Member

    May 2, 2015
    Remember that Sling will be presented through the TiVo UI on this device (although I'm sure you can also use the actual Sling app if you prefer). I would guess that TiVo will assign channel numbers to the Sling channels as well as their own TiVo+ channels in the grid guide.

    If that's not the case, then the only reason I can think why the Stream 4K remote has 0-9 buttons is because maybe they're just recycling the same remote that they already use with their Android TV IPTV boxes as part of their "Next Gen Platform" for MSOs.
  10. NashGuy

    NashGuy Well-Known Member

    May 2, 2015
    Yes. Kinda like how you can access PS Vue and Philo through the native Fire TV UI on Amazon's devices.
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  11. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

    Jan 19, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    Ted Malone just surfaced with some encouraging news:

  12. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

    Apr 2, 2005
    Yeah he's promising deeper and more seamless integration between apps, freetv and paytv from Sling on the 4k streamer. Sounds like the product could be kind of cool and differentiate itself from that stand point.
  13. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

    Jan 19, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    For me the most important takeaway is from this sentence: "Our cable customers are also pushing for us to innovate in ways that will help them retain our mutual subscribers. I hope to have more to announce in this area over the coming months."

    It is the disconnect between the installed base and the new streaming platform that irks me the most. If the Stream 4K will also connect to existing home networks of TiVo boxes, the existing customers won't be abandoned. What they do for cable customers will also percolate up to retail customers I'm sure.

    But Ted may be one of our only advocates at TiVo for now, and we can only hope he will have something to announce in this area in the coming months. The current management strategy is clearly to launch a completely new streaming thing without any "distraction".
  14. jcthorne

    jcthorne Well-Known Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Yes. Nvidia Shield
  15. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    It seems obvious to me that Tivo did not add connectivity to legacy Tivo DVRs on the new streaming device because many customers would abandon the Tivo Mini in favor of the new streaming device to gain full throated versions of the apps on the mini as well as apps that are not available on the mini. Tivo has the technology in the Mini to stream MPEG-2 video over WiFi that could probably be implemented on the new streaming device or else they could implement the transcoded streaming technology from their mobile device apps. They previously had a beta app on the fire tv that was able to stream from legacy Tivos, but it was removed.
  16. foghorn2

    foghorn2 Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2004
    Las Vegas
    If TiVo wants to, and has been wanting to "get out of the hardware business" than why the F* are they worrying about the TiVo Minis, and its loosing sales to its streaming apps ?

    Cant have it both ways
  17. BillyClyde

    BillyClyde Active Member

    Mar 3, 2017
    Sounds more and more like they’ve teamed up with Caavo on this.
  18. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    For whatever reason I think Tivo's having a massive problem with their video transcoding, and that's possibly dictating the lack of DVR streaming more than anything else. It would also explain the rest of the app vaporware. They finally admitted as much when asked.

    I'm just kinda tired of every good thing being counter-balanced by deal-breaking negatives. Yes it's stupid to lack any type of transitional functionality that'll help sell Streams to existing customers. But Tivo is Tivo (TM) so of course getting where they want to go is going to take an additional 1-2 years. Glacially slow progress has been their modus operandi for forever. :rolleyes:

    Are they even going to release new annual models like the competition does to keep revenues bumping and stay within the news? Guessing not. They're constitutionally incapable of functioning quickly and nimbly. This is why I don't think they'll get much better than modest success. Happy to be wrong though.
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  19. srazook

    srazook New Member

    Mar 28, 2010
    TiVo users have gotten use to and love the TiVo UI, that’s why many of us have been loyal over the years. I’d love for the New TiVo Stream 4K to have the ability to integrate Live TV Streaming Services other than Sling into its UI, like YouTube TV, Hulu Plus, etc. It’s unfortunate TiVo decided to partner with Sling, they have very limited Local Channel availability and a limited storage Cloud DVR.
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  20. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

    Aug 13, 2015
    There are two Tivo UI's. Which one do you love? From the posts on this forum, it looks like at least half hate the new UI, which is what you'll get on this device.

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