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Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by mbernste, Jan 7, 2020.
My local Walmart has the Tivo sticks in stock, Sabrina's are all gone. Telling..
Introductory price for the TS4k of $50 is no longer introductory? LOL!
The TS4K didn’t seem to be flying off the shelves at our local Walmart...
Do many people (outside of those on this forum) still recognize TiVo as a brand? Pretty much everyone knows Google.
Yeah. This is why it's hard to see TiVo or anyone else being able to compete against Google in the sub-$100 Android TV streaming device space. (Well, Google's brand power/familiarity is one reason. Other reasons include the fact that Android TV is evolving/rebranding into Google TV, which is right now exclusive to the new Chromecast, and because consumers tend to have more trust in a device where a single company is behind both the hardware and software.)
As long as Google doesn't roll out a $100+ high-end Google TV device aimed at home theater enthusiasts and gamers, the Nvidia Shield TV should be OK. It's already earned its reputation and a loyal little following in that market segment.
So I really see Android TV/Google TV coming down to whatever Google sells (currently, just the new Chromecast), smart TVs, the Nvidia Shield TV, and devices customized by pay TV/broadband operators for distribution to their customers (e.g. AT&T TV box, Sling's AirTV Mini, forthcoming T-Vision dongle, Verizon Stream TV, etc.).
People still see TiVo as a recorder, and the stick wont do that or play recorded stuff off a Tivo.
I still think if they partnered with Sling and make a great new DVR interface for it, the Tivo stick would be a hit and Tivo would still be there on Sabrina or any other Streamer.
I like Sling, but the cloud DVR interface is lacking.
Happened to me with Netflix yesterday
Is $41 right now at az, they can't give it away!
Its 41 at Walmart to. TiVo is dead for many reasons. Foe me they really hit the fan when they screwed with the HW capabilities. And they are still asking for $500 + for lifetime on their DVR's?
I would have gotten this if it at least connected to my TiVo DVRs and played recordings or let me schedule recordings in another room. I get not having Live TV like a TiVo Mini, but at least the TiVo app could have been on the Tivo stream.
It would have been even a step cooler if you could use a single TiVo remote (BT) somehow to switch between TiVo DVR hardware (TE3 or TE4) and TiVo Stream...solving all outdated streaming capabilities of Premiere/Roamio/Bolt.
I’m getting choppy frame rates while watching baseball on the fox sports app, anyone else experiencing this?
My firestick is playing just fine.
Im about done with this TiVo stream going to replace it soon with the chromecast
EDIT: Wow, the fire tv stick 4K quality is way better than the TiVo stream, for the longest I thought my tv was the problem since it was an older tv model. I thought my tv was having issues displaying correct HDR but now I realize it was the TiVo stream all along. The TiVo stream is going into the junk drawer.
On my 2 Samsung 4K TVs, one is from 2017, the other is a 2020 model- the PQ from the Firestick 4K is inferior to the new Chrome 4k ,Tivo Stick and The AirTV Mini 4Ks.
The FireSticks put out a dull colorless image. The whole interface too looks lifeless and boring full of junk.
The Xbox One and the HTPC with a Radeon RX card blows all these streamers in PQ, but too hard to navigate. I wish there was a 4k stick that put out PQ as good as a AMD based device.
They all look about the same on a 1080p Panny Plasma.
It's an SDR interface. It is still colorful but not like with HDR. I see as much color on my 4K FireTv sticks as I do from my Chromecast with Google TV or any other streamer or game system I have with an SDR UI.
This is interesting......
Deeper Dive—TiVo Stream 4K burrows deeper into legacy pay TV
So they’re partnered with MSOs, so why couldn’t they be using the Operator Tier of Android, as was discussed previously? I wonder if their Guide is integrated into the Stream the same as Sling’s is?
Article says these are for broadband-only subs, so I'm assuming operator tier wouldn't apply. No channel subscription involved.
It’s all cloud streaming and DVR, so don’t see why it wouldn’t apply.
RCN already has a page on their site for the TS4K. It looks like it's the same as the current retail version. And RCN is clearly pushing Sling as an alternative to their own cable TV service.
Introducing TiVo® Stream 4K –Get Control Of Your TV | RCN
Video providers can distribute operator tier boxes to video customers. Broadband alone doesn't apply.
Tivo has an operator tier box available. I WISH that's what the Stream was.
Some of the regulars on here used to hope/speculate that TiVo might come out with something like that as a retail device and create their own OTT vMVPD to be used in conjunction with it as the backend service (or strike a deal with an existing one, like PS Vue, so that it could be entirely accessed and controlled through TiVo's own UI). Doesn't look like that will ever happen. And even if it did, I still think the device would have to start up in the Android TV home screen since it would be a retail device (i.e. same situation as Sling's AirTV Mini).