TiVo Launches $50 Streaming Video Player to Take On Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV

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  1. lparsons21

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    I disagree with ATT’s thinking on this. If nothing else, we found out that live streaming isn’t all that great when new shows/episodes are not there, and in the process we found a plethora of shows all over the place with other apps.

    IMO, I don’t think that what ATT is saying publicly about what they want to do with streaming products is more than just a pipe dream that will go away like smoke in a breeze. So far exactly none of their streaming products has been a success by any measure.
     
  2. Alex_7

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    I dropped ATT&T TV Now

    I’ve had it since it used to be Direct tv Now
    I was on a grandfathered lineup. Prices began to increase. I was finally fed up and left.
     
  3. NashGuy

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    All cable TV services are dying. It's all in long-term decline. Satellite TV is dying the fastest but the overall numbers, including when you add in streaming cable TV subs (e.g. YouTube TV), are in decline. Nothing's going to stop that and I think AT&T realizes that. (And just wait until Disney decides to offer all of ESPN's live content as a standalone streaming service without the need for a cable channel package.)

    Meanwhile, HBO has continued to gain more subscribers over the past few years by making it available not only via traditional cable packages but also as a standalone streaming service. I don't see any reason why that trend won't continue now that they're making HBO an even better value with HBO Max, which more than doubles the content while holding the price at the same level. HBO Max is their long-term play, and it'll eventually offer live sports and news alongside its on-demand library.
     
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  4. lparsons21

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    Regardless of the growth of HBO Max it is still a $15 product which is much less revenue than their other services cost. It would take a heck of a lot of growth to overcome that.

    I like HBO Max, it is a great offering but it in no way can be THE service to replace all the other services that have declining subscribers that were paying more than HBO Max costs.
     
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  5. NashGuy

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    Well, first off, the overall profitability of the video entertainment industry is probably going downhill. It's simply the Netflix effect. So any company that was a major cable TV operator will see profits decline as the bundle continues to lose subscribers.

    AT&T will offset those losses to some extent, though, with their own direct-to-consumer video service, HBO Max. (Comcast will do the same with Peacock.) The vast majority of HBO Max content is owned by WarnerMedia. The same is not true for the standard bundle of cable channels sold via DirecTV or AT&T TV; AT&T pays other companies a lot of money to include their channels in those bundles.

    Revenue from the $15-per-sub HBO Max will never approach the level of revenue they got from their $100-per-sub cable TV packages but it may become more profitable for them (relative to underlying costs) than those cable TV services several years down the road. We'll see. At any rate, from the perspective of an AT&T shareholder, at least the company has a solid offering (HBO Max) in the new form of video entertainment (OTT SVOD) that's replacing the cable TV bundle. The same cannot be said for any other MVPD besides Comcast.
     
  6. lparsons21

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    For a product you think is ATT’s video future it has to be noted that it is still not officially on about 70% of the streaming boxes out there. That’s a huge market they are missing.
     
  7. cwoody222

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    Still?

    It’s been what? Less than a month?
     
  8. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Active Member

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    No a bit more than a month
     
  9. brotherali

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    God so much crap to scroll past. Isnt there somewhere else to talk about ATT, FCC definitions?
     
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  10. rczrider

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    It's probably because the TS4K is a dead topic. Buggy, no fixes, no innovation, and real competition is just around the corner.

    If it were more compelling, folks wouldn't turn to other topics.
     
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  11. foghorn2

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    YouBoob Tv goes up to $65/mo . Sling can grab those customers since its only $30 min per pack, $50 for both packs.Too bad this stream sucks and the AirTv Mini 4K is the better product. Tivo looses again.

    Id rather pay $79 for the superior AirTV(or prepay sling for a few month and get it free) then waste money on a buggy crappy TiVo product.
     
  12. rczrider

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    And that's what it comes down to. At this point, the Mi Stick TV 4K and Google Sabrina will be competing with AirTV, not the TS4K, and so can charge more.
     
  13. foghorn2

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    If they have better remotes, I'd get one, but for now The AirTv is perfect with its remote.
     

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