TiVo Launches $50 Streaming Video Player to Take On Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV

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    mbernste

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    snedecor

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    Disney+ is the key to making this successful.
     
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    mntvjunkie

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    This definitely plays to Tivo's strength of being able to curate content from all sources, and makes good on the promise of the Tivo Roamio. Since it is Android based, app support isn't an issue, it's simply now about writing the software to use the API's to determine where given content is. I particularly like that you can set up a "season pass" of sorts to be alerted when something shows up down the line on one of the streaming services, which is something nobody else is doing today. If they can support all of the streaming service providers, including DVR'ed content by them, this could be a win.

    That being said, what does the business model look like? Is Tivo+ the ONLY way they make money on this, or will there be a subscription cost for the Tivo software? A $50 stick that curates all OTT services isn't a hard sell against Roku, Apple TV, Amazon, etc. But a $50 stick that also costs even $5 a month is a non-starter for me, since Roku, AppleTV, and Amazon all offer "good enough" versions of this with no monthly fee. Apple does it with no advertising, while Roku and Amazon do it with advertising for other apps/channels on the respective platforms.
     
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    mntvjunkie

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    Since this is Android based, any app available on Android should be able to work with this. (Hopefully they worked out a deal with Google to have the native Google apps as well). As long as Android continues to be a thing, that means the apps should stay updated as well.
     
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    webcrawlr

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    Finally moving something of their's on to Android. About time!
     
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    LoadStar

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    Another question: will this incorporate TiVo Mini functionality?
     
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    pl1

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    From TiVo.com:
    • Fast and easy integrated search with no additional TiVo service fees.
    • Access to live TV and a cloud DVR from Sling TV.
    • Top streaming services plus over 5,000 apps on Google Play.
    • Stunning picture quality with 4K UHD and Dolby Vision HDR.
    • Get more done with the Google Assistant and more.
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    According to CNET, no Tivo hardware compatibility at the start, as this was built "from the ground up" but it's on the roadmap. So who knows if that will mean months or years.

    Still, this is the retail future.
     
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    d_anders

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    That's my question as well. Reading what the news sources are noting, it's like their reporters didn't even ask the question. When they note Live TV and DVR, they are deferring to SlingTV. Time to check out Zatz and see if he has the scoop.
     
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    LoadStar

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    Interesting.

    if they parlay what they learned from the development of the Android app *last* CES, it seems to me that it wouldn't be hard at all to incorporate that into *this* product.
     
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    m_jonis

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    Wonder if this will allow you to stream TO the device? ie: Downloaded Netflix/Amazon content onto iPhone/iPad, you can share/send to a Roku/Fire TV stick currently)
     
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    cwoody222

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    So why is this better than a Roku or FireTV?

    Because it has the TiVo UI and is Android? (personally I avoid Google)
     
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    LoadStar

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    If the promise holds true, yeah. Having all your streaming providers integrated into a single TiVo interface, including live TV and live grid guide functionality courtesy of Sling TV.

    This promises to be a good transition tool for those who are currently cable or satellite subscribers, who have been put off by the state of streaming providers as they are now.
     
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    dave13077

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    Now add Hulu with Live TV and we (well me anyway) are set!!
     
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    Mikeguy

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    And so, TiVo now is trying to play catch-up with Roku, Amazon/Fire TV, Apple TV, etc., and to be better than them.

    A good deal of this seems to turn on (from the various articles):
    Unfortunately, the precursor to this, TiVo+, has been less than successful and seemingly far from the organized, cohesive experience Shull evangelizes. And, if I'm understanding correctly, this all comes with a further subscription cost, for Sling TV, the only confirmed partner in this, as of now.

    If successful, it could be superb. But the proof is in the pudding and execution. Certainly, TiVo+ hasn't been a good and promising starting point.
     
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    trip1eX

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    looks like this is the product for people without Tivos.
     
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    cherry ghost

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    Based on how my Bolt currently handles OnePasses for streaming shows, I don’t have much faith this will work well.
     
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    realityboy

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    Hopefully, this leads to improvements in that area. I would need to see it work reliably on a current DVR before I would believe that it would work any differently on the new streamer.
     
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