TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. Dec 4, 2019 #1821 of 1966
    mntvjunkie

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    The reason that Tivo isn't getting the updates is because Tivo can't handle them. Having an app on the Tivo platform is just as much the responsibility of Tivo as it is the developers. NO developer will put money into putting an app on a platform that doesn't make them more money than the cost of the app. So, most companies in Tivo's position will PAY the developer to put the app on their platform. Only companies that have significant marketshare can get apps for free. (Microsoft Phones are a GREAT example, no major support outside of Microsoft, so Microsoft either developed their own, or paid Google, Netflix, etc to make an app for their platform).

    If Tivo wants an app, Tivo will need to pay for one, period. Even Comcast doesn't get their apps for free. Netflix developed their app for Comcast because Comcast agreed to resell their services, unlocking a segment of the market that doesn't have a computer or doesn't want to sign up on one Other apps likely have a revenue sharing agreement with Comcast, or Comcast sees a benefit to pay for them to be developed to keep people in the Comcast ecosystem (probably more the latter, as the last thing they want is to have a customer go buy a Roku and realize that they can get the same programming for much cheaper.)
     
  2. Dec 4, 2019 #1822 of 1966
    jcliff

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    If you call them and ask to be removed from Beta it'll bring the regular options back under "Change Privacy Status" when you view your TiVo account info on the website.

    There doesn't seem to be any way to do it on our end.
     
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  3. Dec 4, 2019 #1823 of 1966
    jcliff

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    If you remember early days of Hulu, you'd either see no ad/an ad for Hulu, or the same ad over and over and over.

    So if they don't have a "buyer" for your viewership/in your area/for your viewership on that specific show? it'll just be blank for now. But that can always change.

    I was getting the blank arrow, and then it started showing the same ad for Acorn TV over and over.

    Which is kind of funny since I don't think there's any way to actually subscribe to it on TiVo. And the ad specifically has a Roku logo on it (among others).

    Maybe via Amazon Prime?
     
  4. Dec 5, 2019 #1824 of 1966
    Fofer

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    That's still the case with ad-supported Hulu. It's crazy.
     
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  5. Dec 5, 2019 #1825 of 1966
    slowbiscuit

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    Nobody's giving them a free pass about apps crapping out Minis, we're simply saying that Minis work great as Tivo extenders without apps. You are free to bash Tivo for this but it does not mean that Minis are unusable.

    Beating your head against the wall to make a bad feature try to work is dumb.
     
  6. Dec 6, 2019 #1826 of 1966
    tenthplanet

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    Strange I haven't seen that on Hulu with ads in a least a year. The ads have gotten more mainstream with less public service spots, psa's were always the big repeaters in the past.
     
  7. Dec 6, 2019 #1827 of 1966
    Adam C.

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    Slow down there, biscuit. I never said the Mini was unusable, nor did I say I was "beating my head against the wall". Not sure what your deal is but you're just making stuff up at this point.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2019 #1828 of 1966
    saeba

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    Yep. Both Acorn TV and BritBox TV are available as Amazon Prime Channels.
     
  9. Dec 6, 2019 #1829 of 1966
    Fofer

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    FWIW is still haven’t seen any pre-roll ads on my Roamio Pro or Minis, all running Hydra.

    I’m guessing my posting of this will change that. :p
    But just saying. I haven’t had to “opt out,” yet.
     
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  10. Dec 6, 2019 #1830 of 1966
    Adam C.

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    Same here. Nothing on my Roamio OTA or minis yet. They said 90 days for the rollout which should be ending soon.
     
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  11. Dec 6, 2019 #1831 of 1966
    MrDell

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    Geese.. you got me wondering.. do you think that TiVo suspended the adds because of all the negative feedback!! I called in to complain about three weeks ago and so far so good... they have not returned yet!
     
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  12. Dec 6, 2019 #1832 of 1966
    Fofer

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    Maybe they only rolled it out to Bolts and not Roamios? I dunno.
     
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  13. Dec 6, 2019 #1833 of 1966
    Podchain

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    Okay, remember how I said the pre-roll ads were no big deal? I said that in error. These ads are persistent, like a bad mole. I opted out over the phone with no issue, but man, they’ve gone a bit too far.


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  14. Dec 6, 2019 #1834 of 1966
    tim_m

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    No ads here on my roamio plus or mini yet either.
     
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  15. Dec 6, 2019 #1835 of 1966
    Saturn

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    So what's the trick to getting these disabled? I haven't had any luck via an online support ticket yet. What's the key words to use? Gray arrows? Slow to load? F-you-and-your-dying-company?
     
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  16. Dec 6, 2019 #1836 of 1966
    Podchain

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    At first I asked to be opted out. The rep told me that I could skip them. I said that’s not good enough. Honestly, I very loudly stated that my service is set to expire and there are other DVR’s waiting to take my money. I pay annually. I also told her this idea is a joke. I had no problem with these ads when they were one a night. But now they are on every stupid show I watch.

    On a side note, I did try blocking the domain others have suggested but it made my apps stop working. I use the YouTube app quite a bit so I unblocked the domain.


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  17. Dec 7, 2019 #1837 of 1966
    MrDell

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    I would definitely do it over the phone and be very firm and don’t take no for an answer. Mention that your TiVo becomes unresponsive and you want the adds removed...
     
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  18. Dec 7, 2019 #1838 of 1966
    Mikeguy

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    This seems to be a key and very helpful observation to make.
     
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  19. Dec 7, 2019 #1839 of 1966
    Chuck_IV

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    Yea, doing it via my router(Netgear) gave me unintended results as well. The only reliable way I found was running Pi-Hole, since it doesn’t actually block things but just doesn’t resolve the address.

    Not to get too off topic but honestly, I’m glad I now run Pi-Hole because beyond TiVo, it’s amazing how many other hidden requests were being done by various other apps/programs/systems, that are now blocked.


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  20. Dec 7, 2019 #1840 of 1966
    saeba

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    Blocking out the pre-roll ads was simple for me. Signed up for a free OpenDNS Home account (opendns.com). Setup my home router to point to OpenDNS servers (IPv4 addresses 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220). As the router obtains its WAN address via DHCP, download and install OpenDNS updater on my PC to automatically keep this in sync on the OpenDNS side.

    In OpenDNS, set the following domains for Web Content Filtering:
    ALWAYS BLOCK:
    1. adgwy.tivo.com
    2. api.segment.com
    3. cdn.segment.com
    4. prod.adgwy.tivo.com
    5. search.spotxchange.com
    Pre-roll ads disappear and I haven't seen side effects on the TiVo side (apps still work, guide icons still appear, etc.).
     

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