TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

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  1. Nov 5, 2019 #1541 of 1858
    gary.buhrmaster

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    AFAIK, the only suggestion that TE4 roamios would not get the pre-roll ads were that they were not yet seen even after the bolts got them, and some were wishful, but (TTBOMK) there was no commitment by TiVo itself they would not happen. Apparently the roamios (on TE4) have joined their brethren. I can't claim I am surprised.
     
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  2. Nov 5, 2019 #1542 of 1858
    Saturn

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    I just had a mini start bootlooping and I'm having trouble receiving one of our local stations OTA but only on the Bolt. Even if TiVo GAVE me a mini I'm not sure I'd bother installing it. If Plex had one of their lifetime deals going, I'd switch today...
     
  3. Nov 5, 2019 #1543 of 1858
    Pokemon_Dad

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    You didn't switch to Tablo yet? :)
     
  4. Nov 5, 2019 #1544 of 1858
    Saturn

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    I'm really close to pulling the trigger on Plex Pass + HDHomeRun. Either that or Tablo. I thought Tablo had issues with video quality but an article I found shows it can be setup to store the video without recompressing it.
     
  5. Nov 5, 2019 #1545 of 1858
    randian

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    Do you have a pointer to that article? Google is not forthcoming.

    Mandatory (or so I thought) transcoding, rather than pass-through like TiVo does, was a disqualifier for me as far as possible TiVo alternatives.
     
  6. Nov 5, 2019 #1546 of 1858
    Saturn

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    More research, apparently Tablo doesn't do 1080i well: Sports at 1080i looks terrible - FireTV and Roku and Browser

    That's a deal breaker for me.

    The setting here indicate it will do "HD 1080 10Mbps" but apparently that's still transcoded on the fly, and not very well.

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  7. Nov 6, 2019 #1547 of 1858
    Pokemon_Dad

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    Sounds like there's a Plex Pass in your future then! It only transcodes if necessary for the device/app that's accessing it. Also as you know you can expand beyond OTA into other media. I've played with Plex for managing music among other things.
     
  8. Nov 6, 2019 #1548 of 1858
    nrnoble

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    EDIT: After further investigation, what appears to have happened is that for reasons unknown, the TIVO came out of pause and started playing the food52 Tivo+ channel. Until this had happened, I did not know there was a food52 Tivo+ channel.

    A couple of minutes ago I put my Tivo on pause while watching a recorded program. What was strange was that it came out of pause to play a "Food52" commercial which was just a recipe on how to make stir-fry, then another commercial started to play after it. I was puzzled so I selected "Guide" on my Tivo remote and on screen appeared: "Channel not available".

    Very odd, never happened before. And it was clear that the two commercials I saw were not traditional commercials that are normally shown on broadcast TV.
     
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  9. Nov 6, 2019 #1549 of 1858
    nshahzad

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    I'm on a Roamio and I'm getting ads for Tivo+ in the guide. Super annoying, they're on every page. It's the last straw for me. The ads for TMZ are particularly dumb. I was contemplating YouTubeTV with my Shield, I think this has just pushed me over the edge that in totality I'm paying way too much. TiVo basically kept me in the game with the Minis and all too. RIP.

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  10. Nov 7, 2019 #1550 of 1858
    TKnight206

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    How long did you have it paused? 30+ minutes? Could this be a new type of screensaver? Not that TiVo has screensavers to my knowledge.

    Have you complained over the phone? The only appropriate place for ads is in the Discovery Bar.
     
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  11. Nov 8, 2019 #1551 of 1858
    John7777

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    Well, I opened up a text dialogue with them and went back and forth about the problem, and they said they are looking into it, and they would send me an email when they have a fix. I told them again and again that until that time, please just remove the pre-rolled ads to remove the conflict, but they would not. Finally they said that when they find a fix and try it and if that does not work, then and only then would they remove the pre-rolled ads. That was 3 or 4 days ago and no word yet. As I said, the ads are not a big deal since when we start a show, we have the remote in our hand anyway, so it's just one more button to advance past the ad which is has been working okay, but it sucks that when I want to check the channel signal strength, I now have to use my other TiVo or do one channel at a time on the bolt, but this has not been enough for us to find another alternative. Too much invested already in a bolt, a roameo, and a mini.
     
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  12. Nov 8, 2019 #1552 of 1858
    nrnoble

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    My recent observation is that they keep playing the same 24 hour tape loop, at least on FilmRise Movies. Same movies at the same time of day over and over. Surely they are in test mode of some kind that is limited to beta testers, otherwise this is the worst roll out Tivo has ever done.

    On my Roku it appears I can get all the FilmRise programming VOD, not steam it like it is 1970s TV with no guide that is the current state of Tivo+.

    BTW, don't leave your Tivo on Tivo+ when not watching, otherwise it will eat up all your allotted data for the month pretty quickly. Not good!
     
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  13. Nov 8, 2019 #1553 of 1858
    Adam C.

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    Just curious, why do you have a frequent need to check signal strengths? If you don't want to go to the actual signal meter screen, you can also view signal strengths by going to the Diagnostics screen. This will show you the strength for any channels that are currently tuned.
     
  14. Nov 8, 2019 #1554 of 1858
    nshahzad

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    No, but I will make it clear when I call to cancel. It looks like they're headed in the direction of ads everywhere. Ads on preroll are particularly egregious.
     
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    Pokemon_Dad

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    Didn't you mean to post that in another thread? → Tivo Plus(?)
     
  16. Nov 8, 2019 #1556 of 1858
    mschnebly

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    Could TiVo possibly just be trying out things and seeing what will work and what wont? You know, throwing things against the wall and see what sticks? Test for backlash?
     
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  17. Nov 8, 2019 #1557 of 1858
    BobCamp1

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    They've always been headed in that direction since day 1, you've just chosen to ignore it until now. Technology allows them to put ads where they couldn't before.
     
  18. Nov 8, 2019 #1558 of 1858
    BobCamp1

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    The Tivo is a money-making machine first, second, and third. If it's supposed to do those other tasks as well then somebody should tell Rovi.

    I should say Tivo is SUPPOSED to be a money-making machine. I don't think DVRs have ever been a money-making machine by themselves. Adding a few crappy streaming apps didn't help. I don't think adding a crappy streaming service will help either.
     
  19. Nov 8, 2019 #1559 of 1858
    Donbadabon

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    After successfully opting out of the pre-show ads, a few weeks went by and then I started getting the gray arrow screen. And now the ads are back. TiVo is really starting to get to me.
     
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  20. Nov 9, 2019 #1560 of 1858
    nshahzad

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    Of course, they've probably been planning it for a while and the new interface was required to be able to implement it. I've been using TiVo since the Series 3 and my parents from Series 1, so it's been loong run. It's unfortunate.

    I have RCN, and they provide TiVos as their DVRs. I wonder if/how the in-guide ads, etc, will be implemented for those.
     
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