TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. Nov 2, 2019 #1521 of 1876
    TKnight206

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    It's been almost a year since @TiVo_Ted said that. I still hope that's the case. Just him confirming that would alleviate some of our fears, for those of us who use TE3.

    While the option of AutoSkip would be nice, I'm fine with pressing a button. Although, I'd be happy if SkipMode was a bit more accurate. It's annoying how a little bit of the show gets cut off, or the last segment doesn't get marked.

    Have you tried calling and escalating to a supervisor?
     
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  2. Nov 2, 2019 #1522 of 1876
    parzec

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    I received my first inserted ad two days ago on my Roamio. This seems to defeat one of the primary reasons for purchasing Tivo (ad skipping) in the first place. Having been a Tivo user since the Philips Series 1 was introduced, this is a level to which I never imagined they would stoop, especially for paid subscriptions. Glad I never "upgraded" my trusty Lifetime Tivo HDs to the latest models.
     
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  3. Nov 2, 2019 #1523 of 1876
    SVO

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    Well, a 22-year Tivo customer here. I will be out as of 12/1. My Bolt is getting glitchy and the apps are wonky. It only works inverted with a laptop cooling fan underneath- Great ventilation design that!

    Where I live cable is the only reasonable broadband service so the incremental cost is cheaper with a Comcast X1. Only have 60 hours of recording which isn't really enough but what ya gonna do. Stacking up the cost of a new Tivo box, the new ads B.S., risk that Tivo just goes under in the next couple of years = time to walk. My wife will sorely miss the interface.

    Good luck folks!
     
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  4. Nov 2, 2019 #1524 of 1876
    aristoBrat

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    It's almost like the company doing the stooping today isn't the same company from back in the Series 1 day or something... ::dunno:: :D
     
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  5. Nov 2, 2019 #1525 of 1876
    Pokemon_Dad

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    Warning Warning Warning: WAF issues ahead. :)

    How about getting a Roamio off eBay, opting out of the TE4 pre-rolls or keeping it on TE3, and adding something better than any TiVo for streaming like a Fire TV Stick 4K?

    IMHO the Roamio series was the last great TiVo ever made.
     
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  6. Nov 2, 2019 #1526 of 1876
    Noelmel

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    I’ve read this whole thread and I believe you’re the first person to get the ads on a Roamio (unless I missed something somewhere). I also have Roamio and thought we weren’t getting them. Maybe I’m getting confused with the TiVo plus (I know that was series 6 and up)

    What software version are you on? I got v5 last night but haven’t had any ads yet


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  7. Nov 3, 2019 #1527 of 1876
    parzec

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    I am currently on version 5. Not sure exactly when it upgraded. And I should clarify that I was actually watching a show recorded on my Roamio via my Tivo Mini Vox. So, it is possible that the insert ad was specific to the Mini Vox and not necessarily the Roamio.
     
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  8. Nov 3, 2019 #1528 of 1876
    ufo4sale

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    I’m the biggest TiVo supporter in the world and I have not gotten adds or TiVo Plus channels. I must be doing something wrong or incredibly right.

    What’s a TiVo guy suppose to do. The thousands of dollars I’ve spent on TiVo’s over the decades and this is how they treat me. I just don’t get it. Im full of emotions that I can not express. :):(:mad::D:cool:
     
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  9. Nov 3, 2019 #1529 of 1876
    no-mo

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    I've had Tivo since the beginning after my ReplayTV quit working. I've had most of the models and would upgrade as new boxes arrived. I used the models with a cable card slot once that became an option and deployed the mini to other tv's.

    Over the years TiVo has done little to innovate (wasted opportunity) but over the past few years it seemed like somehow they got their collective butts in gear. At the same time, I quit subscribing to cable tv and my Bolt now uses my antenna.

    But now, they appear to have gone all in on stupid. The ability to auto-skip commercials is great; what idiot thought, "well now we'll INSERT commercials that no one will want". Like I said; from lazy to stupid.

    My annual subscription is up in January and I'm not going to renew. I'm selling my Tivo boxes and mini's. There are other great options out there that have commercial skip as well. I'm not calling to opt out because I can't opt out of the other crazy crap they may though my way in the future. Best option is to dump and move on.

    This situation reminds me of my Keurig experience. Had their coffee makers for years. I would upgrade as new versions arrived but then some idiot decided to DRM coffee pods. LOL Dumped them and moved on too. Don't hold onto what doesn't work for you. Don't be afraid to walk away. When companies go stupid, dump them.
     
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  10. Nov 3, 2019 #1530 of 1876
    Pokemon_Dad

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    @no-mo you probably already know this, but options include Tablo, HD HomeRun with Channels DVR, HD HomeRun with Plex, and others, plus for streaming there are many little boxes, sticks and such. Join us here for more info: TiVo Alternatives?
     
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  11. Nov 3, 2019 #1531 of 1876
    dianebrat

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    and that was incredibly easy to bypass, snip one wire and DRM was gone.
     
  12. Nov 3, 2019 #1532 of 1876
    no-mo

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    I have been testing Emby with HD Homerun tuners and comskip/MCEBuddy for a few months. I ordered the Tablo a few days ago. I will start testing it once it arrives. I'll see you on the alternatives link.
     
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  13. Nov 3, 2019 #1533 of 1876
    no-mo

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    There were many hacks to render the DRM useless on the pods, but that's not my point. I vote with my dollars and feet. ;-)
     
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  14. Nov 4, 2019 #1534 of 1876
    TKnight206

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    I'm on TE3. I have no intention to touch TE4. I have a Roamio.

    Call the Comcast Loyalty Dept. and see if you can get the X1 for free. It doesn't hurt to ask.

    Apps aside, how is the Bolt getting glitchy? We're not talking about spinning blue circles when using the menu, are we? (I use a Roku if I need streaming.)

    I can't see any justification for the pre-roll ads when it comes to recorded shows.

    As for TiVo+ in the guide, it takes up space (one channel) and the pestering (can't be removed despite letting us know it exists) isn't helping TiVo's image. As annoying as it can be with ads in the Discovery Bar, it's the most appropriate place. Just put it there! (For those on TE4, of course.)

    Yes, this, especially the first sentence you used.

    Some of us invested in lifetime. I can't necessarily vote with my wallet when it comes to TiVo. I'm just thankful that TE3 is untouched regarding this madness.

    If TiVo is desperate for money, wouldn't it make more sense to charge for new features (software version updates) rather than shoving ads down our throats?

    TiVo Inc. and
    TiVo Corporation are different if that makes you feel better.
     
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  15. Nov 4, 2019 #1535 of 1876
    jcarlin

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    The pre-roll ads started showing up on my Bolt a few days ago. The experience is pretty bad and looks like an engineering hack. Every recording I play for the first time throws up the gray arrows screen, like when you launch an app. Then a poor quality irrelevant commercial plays. Other than the unexpected screen change they are fairly easy to dismiss. I pressed select to start the recording and the right arrow quickly dismisses the add. Annoying.

    Mostly I feel betrayed by a friend I have known for 21 years. I think we all kind of feel this way. TiVo liberated us from network programming and irrelevant commercials and now here they are trying to put that back into our lives. I never bought a lifetime for any of my boxes. Always thought the next tech was just around the corner so I played (or PAID) it safe. So feeling pretty justified after throwing so much money their way I called to opt-out.

    Opting-out wasn't hard to do, but left an unexpected scar. The agent I connected with didn't understand my problem until I used the keyword "Pre-Roll". After that he understood and told me they would be gone in a few days. Today the ads are gone, but the annoying gray arrow screen still pops up before each new recording plays. This is still an annoying and disrupting reminder how my longtime friend betrayed me, but I suppose I will eventually get over it.
     
  16. Nov 4, 2019 #1536 of 1876
    Mikeguy

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    I know that it's minor (just like unattractive graffiti), but it just isn't the "TiVo Experience."
     
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  17. Nov 5, 2019 #1537 of 1876
    TKnight206

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    I'm on TE3, but if I were you, I'd complain over the phone about the "annoying gray arrow screen" still popping up before playing recordings. It almost sounds like a bug.
     
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  18. Nov 5, 2019 #1538 of 1876
    Balzer

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    Ugh....

    I had my first pre-roll ad experience last night. So I immediately called Support to complain, and without any push-back whatsoever, the agent said the ads would stop in 2-3 days. But reading this, I see I will still get that annoying "gray arrow screen" before playing each new recording?

    I guess I will have to make another call to complain in a few days. :(

    And yes, a long time TiVo customer here too, currently using 4 TiVo devices, and have owned a total of 10 since 2001, so it's disappointing. No plans yet to dump TiVo, but it's becoming harder to be a "fanboy" these days.

    Jeff
     
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  19. Nov 5, 2019 #1539 of 1876
    Donbadabon

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    Once they stopped the ads for me, I've never seen a gray arrow screen. I don't see anything different than before the ads starting showing up. Seamless start to shows for me.


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  20. Nov 5, 2019 #1540 of 1876
    Donbadabon

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    Well, now TiVo has made a liar out of me.

    When I started watching recordings tonight they contained that 'gray arrow screen'. They weren't there before now. It takes about a second or two before it goes away. It is very annoying.
     
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