TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    LOL--so that's what was being insinuated? Yes, we're part of a cabal of Alviso TiVo-ists, sitting in a circle on my living room floor with incense burning in the background, chanting the TiVo animation video song. LOL.
     
  2. tommage1

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    1/2 hour, still spinning. Hit Tivo button, tried different shows, either spinning circles or black screens. Have not even seen an ad yet............................. If they put this on TE3 might as well toss my Tivos in the trash, don't think I would even sell them, just sticking someone else with this cr*p.
     
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  3. Mikeguy

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    There's been a sighting!

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  4. Mikeguy

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    Thanks for the reports. Sounds like pre-roll opt-out grounds to me!* :rolleyes:

    * Dare I even suggest it, but it also gives TiVo "feature" implementation matters to look into.
     
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  5. snerd

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    That's not how TCF works. However, you can be sure that the "class action lawsuit" mantra will spread to many other threads. Is that close enough?
     
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  6. tommage1

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    You know that is very interesting. If it is at an account level not box related then you could opt out. But if you sell/transfer the box to someone else they might not be able to opt out when they transfer to their account. If that is true forget about selling/transferring any TE4 Tivos, whomever ends up with them might be stuck with pre-rolls. Which would not make for happy campers, as in returns etc etc.
     
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  7. tommage1

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    I notice this has been discussed but will throw in my two cents. Class action lawsuits a waste, at least for the consumer. The lawyers will make a mint but the consumer gets next to nothing, in most cases. A stock type class action, I know someone who lost about 10K. I think they got $10 or so from the suit (for sure under $100). Plus if you want the company to stay in business (ie you still use their products or own the stock or whatever) all you do is hurt yourself (and again make some lawyers a fortune).
     
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  8. opfreak

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    Its for your own good. Without these forced Tivo ad's your TiVo will stop function. ;-)
     
  9. exdishguy

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    Because it was rumored that we may not be able to backrev to TE3 so some of us did it right away before we couldn't. We also didn't know if there would be an opt-out nor did we know if that opt-out would work. If we really want to roll up to TE4 again, I'm pretty sure Tivo won't mind.
     
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  10. Joe3

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    Sorry, not insinuating. That's the first thing you think? It's all about you? You guys ever keep those inflated ego in check, much?
     
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  11. Joe3

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    Yet, there are all the reports of awards." One actually that made history recently about billion dollars, I think it was against a pharmaceutical company. Mind you awards get appealed, but not down to spare change. Sorry about you knowing someone who knew someone who had a **** for a lawyer, but your generalizing and painting with a board brush.
     
  12. cwoody222

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    How did you jump to that conclusion?

    If it’s account level, anyone could opt out, regardless of box.

    If you sell a device, it’s no longer associated with your account, would then get ads, until the new owner opted out.

    There’s nothing to suggest a device sold to a secondary user would prohibit opting out.
     
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  13. tommage1

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    That's not what I've been reading, supposedly the ability to "opt out" depends on your account, how long you've been a customer, type of service you have (lifetime, monthly, promo, whatever). Until Tivo comes out and states "ANYONE CAN OPT OUT AT ANY TIME" I have to figure they are making choices on who can and who cannot opt out, for now probably most, in the future maybe not so. They want the ads, letting some "opt out" for now does not mean they will in the future, probably not. Especially new customers who know nothing else. Maybe old customers can have a yearly get together, talk about "the good old days" of Tivo, live guide, transfers, NO PRE-ROLL ADS ;)
     
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  14. cwoody222

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    Oh yes, that I agree with. It seems not ALL customers can opt out.

    Doesn’t have anything to do with a device being secondhand or anything, just the account itself.
     
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  15. tommage1

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    Maybe, obviously there are so many suits I could not possibly know how all of them turned out. The ones "I" had experience with, all turned out "spare change" for the consumer. Will be interesting to see how the Equifax suit turns out. Supposedly $125 and something for hours spent because of the breach. I did file since I WAS affected, good amount of time spent. I passed on the $125 (because I don't believe it will be $125), took the years of credit report/scores from all 3 companies. And did 9 hours. Family member doing the $125 and hours. I'm going to GUESS pocket change actually paid to each person, I'll GUESS under $20 if that. But maybe I will be proven wrong. In this case I do believe a suit is warranted, could care less if Equifax went out of business.
     
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  16. tommage1

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    By the way, tested the TE4 Bolt again today. Still never ending spinning circles or black screens. Have yet to see an ad. Most of the time no way to bypass either, no buttons do anything, skip button or even FF. Sometimes going back to menu then starting the show again will allow a button push. No feedback though since the ad never plays. Can spend 5 mins or more just trying to play a recording. Maybe it is the DSL but if so they are going to have to change requirements for using a Tivo, "must have at least xxx internet download speed", if the ads working depends on your internet speed/type/company good luck..................
     
  17. tommage1

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    Well my point was if opt out is account based not on the device then any transfer could end up with a person who would not be allowed to opt out. Tivo is picking and choosing. And I would not want to sell a device to someone that is opted out for ME but might not be for THEM. As there is a good chance they would be POed if stuck with ads, returns, bad feedback etc. I would have no way of knowing before the sale................
     
  18. zexel

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    First, I am in no way a Tivo fan boy who defends everything Tivo does. I do have a problem with the way they implemented this " feature", but that being said, I have opted out and both my Bolt and Roamio are back to normal, no pre roll ads no spinning blue circles. So I suggest everyone try this. If it doesn't fix it , if they stop the opt out, or if they don't allow you to opt out then you have a legitimate gripe. It appears that all some people want to do is complain without having attempted to fix the problem.
     
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  19. V7Goose

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    Getting this crap removed may not be as easy as some have reported - my experience so far is a bit different.

    I sent an email in from the TiVo support site telling them I wanted it off of my Bolt. The email did automatically open a support case, so I KNOW they saw it. Today that case is closed with no contact to me in any way, and the nasty garbage pre-roll commercials are STILL on my Bolt!
     
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  20. tommage1

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    Before Rovi and moving support offshore email was a GREAT way to request customer service. Since you can be detailed, they have a hard copy they can read and look into. But now forget it. Whenever I've tried emails now the only thing they ever say is "for that you will need to call". Not much different in chat. So seems phone calls are pretty much it for real "issues", and then you STILL get off shore reading from a script in most cases (hey, reboot your Tivo) With no authority to do anything really, if something other than a "normal" procedure they put you on hold and call the person YOU should be talking to. You have to hope they understood enough about what you said and are able to convey it to the person THEY are calling, good luck.
     
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