TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

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  1. Sep 24, 2019 #801 of 1876
    TonyD79

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    Download is just a convenient term. I’m sure it takes some time to propagate where’ve lists through their servers. Probably much less than 15 minutes but they like to play it safe. Then when you communicate with the mothership, it gets its status.
     
  2. Sep 24, 2019 #802 of 1876
    mattyro7878

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    Pretty much my attitude. I love the product. It has no peer. Saves me 16 minutes out of every hour i watch tv. I am not gonna go nuts over 30 seconds.
     
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  3. Sep 24, 2019 #803 of 1876
    Mikeguy

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    Some perhaps informative dialog from here:
    I thought that I also read something else stating that rollbacks to TE3 would be eliminated in the future, but I can't find it, now.
     
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  4. Sep 24, 2019 #804 of 1876
    tommage1

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    Just on the walls/windows or a hat too?
     
  5. Sep 24, 2019 #805 of 1876
    Mikeguy

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    TiVo AutoSkip?*

    * Of course, I'm having a time in thinking of something else. ;) Although, to be fair, tech. supposedly in the pipeline: the Mini Wireless Adapter; the Roku, Apple TV, and Fire TiVo apps; and even TiVo Plus. And who woulda thunk that TiVo would be coming out with the Edge box, which seems pretty sweet?
     
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  6. Sep 24, 2019 #806 of 1876
    jakep_82

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    I'm not sure if I've been a customer long enough, and I'm not interested in calling Tivo to find out. This decision by Tivo makes it clear to me that they don't value the customer experience, and that's a signal for me that I should get out while the getting is good. I ordered a Tablo yesterday, and my Tivo will be on ebay next week. So yeah, my threats weren't actually empty. Tivo has lost me as a customer.
     
  7. Sep 24, 2019 #807 of 1876
    randian

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    That is, from a certain point of view, a feature, not a bug. If skipping the ad takes just as long as watching it, you'll watch the ad. Win-Win for TiVo.
     
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  8. Sep 24, 2019 #808 of 1876
    Mikeguy

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    As many an issue that I have with the on-call ads, I do think that TiVo values the customer experience. But it also values its stock price, being able to sell its constituent parts, its on-going existence, etc. It's the balance there and how best to reach it that seems in question.
     
  9. Sep 24, 2019 #809 of 1876
    jakep_82

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    Perhaps, but this seems like a pretty hostile way to do it. They could innovate a new feature people want, and charge a monthly fee to use it. Instead they took the lazy way out. That doesn't give me hope for the future, which is why I'm bailing now while my lifetime Bolt is still valuable.
     
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  10. Sep 24, 2019 #810 of 1876
    Mikeguy

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    I agree, although I would put it as, perhaps, they took the easy way out. They have the ability to inject ads easily enough (relatively speaking), including having done it before--perhaps as distinct from developing value from the consumers' perspective. Perhaps a faster and easier way for a new CEO (one of many) to try to make his mark, shore the company up, and try to position it for sale.
     
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    CloudAtlas

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    Going with your made up numbers we have 10% of ~300,000 customer is 30,000 retail customers forgoing a new purchase they may never have made anyway. That is small compared to the 7+ million OEM cable company subscribers who pay monthly and will watch the pre-rolls happy that auto-Skip removed the other 16 minutes of ads.

    Honestly the only reason TiVO didn’t start serving up ads sooner is because of the Patent $$$ coming in. That’s gone and something needs to replace that recurring revenue stream. Feel free to suggest one.
     
  12. Sep 24, 2019 #812 of 1876
    moyekj

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    I haven't seen any indication from TiVo these pre-roll ads will go to MSO units. In fact I'd be very surprised if that is the plan, and obviously they would need MSO permission for that as it is disruptive to MSO customers. My impression from Ted's posts is that this is to help subsidize retail units only.
     
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  13. Sep 24, 2019 #813 of 1876
    hummingbird_206

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    I'm OOTL.:) What are MSO's and who are their customers?
     
  14. Sep 24, 2019 #814 of 1876
    krkaufman

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    No, I don't recall seeing TiVo officially confirming @DigitalDawn's breaking news, reposted last night ...
    ... but reviewing @TiVo_Ted's post-CEDIA/-food poisoning posts would be the first place to look.*

    edit: * Update: Nope, best place to look is @TiVo_Ted's comment posted just 3 minutes later, 2 posts below, >here<.
     
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  15. Sep 24, 2019 #815 of 1876
    Jed1

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    The MSO boxes don’t have skip mode as it will violate the retransmission agreements they have with the content owners. The MSO remotes have their Ondemand button where the skip button is.
    https://www.secv.com/cdocs/TiVo_Leave_Behind_4.6_DVR-Mini.pdf
     
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  16. Sep 24, 2019 #816 of 1876
    TiVo_Ted

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    I'm not sure where you guys heard this, but to my knowledge we have no plans to block downgrades from TE4 to TE3. To be clear, this is only on boxes that are capable of supporting TE3. For instance, the upcoming TiVo EDGE will only support TE4 and beyond. It will never be able to be downgraded to TE3.
     
  17. Sep 24, 2019 #817 of 1876
    krkaufman

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    Or they simply could have been more transparent/open about their plans, rather than just turning it on. It's hard to imagine that user angst would have been greater if they'd been up-front about the coming change.
     
  18. Sep 24, 2019 #818 of 1876
    krkaufman

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    X marks the spot.
     
  19. Sep 24, 2019 #819 of 1876
    krkaufman

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    I could see TiVo offering the same "feature" to MSO's, though, to allow them to insert their own ads. The ad catalog would be the MSO's, but TiVo would still get their taste.
     
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  20. Sep 24, 2019 #820 of 1876
    krkaufman

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    Chuckle. We heard it via a CEDIA-sourced post re-quoted 3 minutes prior to your reply, >here<.

    THANK YOU for the un-confirmation.
     
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