TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. Sep 24, 2019 #721 of 1952
    schatham

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    Do you pay a fee to be here?


    Web sites over did it with ads and people revolted by using ad blockers. Just like Tivo is making a big mistake here.
     
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  2. Sep 24, 2019 #722 of 1952
    TKnight206

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    I'm going to intrude and say that unlike with TiVo, we have a choice here on TCF. We can either pay to get rid of ads, or we can enjoy the site filled with ads.

    If the subscription rates aren't sustainable, TiVo should raise the rates. Offer a cheaper subscription plan that involves ads, but not necessarily pre-roll ads. (For those who paid for lifetime subscriptions already, no more ads than before.)
     
  3. Sep 24, 2019 #723 of 1952
    reneg

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    As Tivo_Ted has stated here, Tivo has no plans to add this feature to TE3 at this time. The decision has been made by Tivo. The business case does not support it. Of course they could change their minds, but right now, Tivo believes they can make more money applying their limited dollars & resources to other projects which will hopefully make a greater return on investment.
     
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  4. Sep 24, 2019 #724 of 1952
    krkaufman

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    Dunno, but you seem to be ignoring “over time.”
     
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  5. Sep 24, 2019 #725 of 1952
    krkaufman

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    It was implied by Ted’s statement that TE3 is in maintenance mode (bug fixes only), and that the ads were a “feature.” But I still wouldn’t say ever.
     
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  6. Sep 24, 2019 #726 of 1952
    krkaufman

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    Eh, not all that ironic, since the situations aren’t the same.

    I’ve had ads from the beginning, and accept them as the cost of free access to the site, knowing that I could eliminate the ads via a paid subscription. Seems like most everyone would be groovy were TiVo doing the same.
     
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  7. Sep 24, 2019 #727 of 1952
    krkaufman

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    This would seem to apply to TE3 and the pre-roll ads, if viewed from TiVo’s perspective.
     
  8. Sep 24, 2019 #728 of 1952
    krkaufman

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    Yes it’s a money grab, and seemingly a necessary one. If it keeps TiVo afloat longer, then it will have been worthwhile.
     
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  9. Sep 24, 2019 #729 of 1952
    hawk521

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    The pure irony of implementing "AUTO SKIP" just months before implementing "FORCED PRE-ROLL ADS" leaves me with the impression that Tivo has no clear concept of where their success lies in the marketplace. I came to Tivo after having my ReplayTV (with lifetime service) killed off in the early 2000s (the switch to all digital cable killed it) and then recently my Moxi (with lifetime service) was killed by Arris (and/or the folks Arris sold Moxi to) when they arbitrarily decided that the lifetime channel guide interval for all owners had simply expired.

    Tivo was known me as a promising, stable alternative for many years and I didn't hesitate to buy a Tivo Bolt Vox and contract for the lifetime service.

    I was inspired by Tivo's daring implementation of the "AUTO SKIP" feature in the face of potential legal challenges. But now with the new "PRE-ROLL ADS" being forced on Tivo owners - especially those of us with lifetime subscriptions - doesn't this put Tivo on much shakier ground from a legal standpoint? Stripping out commercials from content and then essentially replacing it with a different ad scheme of your own sounds a bit iffy to me. Sure could make the legal arguments tougher in court.

    FWIW, I have no issue at all with Tivo offering the "PRE-ADS" with a discounted service plan. But to retroactively invoke these unwanted ads on Tivo owners who contracted lifetime services prior to this "feature" is morally and probably legally wrong.
     
  10. Sep 24, 2019 #730 of 1952
    TKnight206

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    Assuming it's necessary, wouldn't it make more sense to just raise the monthly and annual rates instead?
     
  11. Sep 24, 2019 #731 of 1952
    aaronwt

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    They are already way too high.

    I had not been seeing any pre-roll ads from my TiVo Minis. So I checked my Bolts and Roamio directly. I didn't see any ads on them yet either.
     
  12. Sep 24, 2019 #732 of 1952
    krkaufman

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    No, not really. If the economic principle to price-setting is “whatever the market will bear,” then I expect that they’ve already set service rates at the highest they think (and hopefully have studied) they can get away with.
     
  13. Sep 24, 2019 #733 of 1952
    krkaufman

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    So maybe this is just a New Coke situation. The widespread pre-roll ads are loathed, but we’ll rejoice when they’re pulled and only applicable to TiVo+ content.
     
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  14. Sep 24, 2019 #734 of 1952
    slude

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    Fast forwarding through pushed commercials in multiple, but larger, time increments is a world of difference from one-press skipping the entire commercial.
     
  15. Sep 24, 2019 #735 of 1952
    Megamind

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    In all the noise about this change, this is one of the things I've been curious about. Has anybody with the ads confirmed the inability to play content with the internet is down or disconnected?
     
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  16. Sep 24, 2019 #736 of 1952
    tivoknucklehead

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    after reading 37 pages of extreme anger I will now predict tivo will back off of this nonsense, Just like Coke backed off "New coke " :)
     
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    slude

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    zubinh

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    Come on man, Ted comes here to give us some insight into whats going on at TiVo and you insult the man after he falls ill? Not good and I suggest you apologize.
     
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  19. Sep 24, 2019 #739 of 1952
    Adam C.

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    Maybe I missed it, but is anyone able to confirm that their ads were turned off after they called into Tivo? We're past the 72-hour window at this point for some users.
     
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  20. Sep 24, 2019 #740 of 1952
    randian

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    It not now then when? If they're earning ad revenue today, why aren't prices going down today? I don't see what would be different next year.
     

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