TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

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  1. Sep 24, 2019 #701 of 1966
    randian

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    When TiVo_Ted says "mechanisms like targeted advertising, content delivery and premium services are all going to be needed in order for us to help bring down the out-of-pocket costs for consumers over time", what evidence is there for that statement? Is the Edge notably less expensive than the Bolt and Roamio? Did I miss an announcement regarding price reductions for the cost of lifetime or monthly TiVo subscriptions?
     
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  2. Sep 24, 2019 #702 of 1966
    TKnight206

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    I paid for lifetime on all my boxes. Lifetime means for the life of the box. I don't want ads added to my TE3 Roamio boxes because they don't find the revenue sustainable anymore. If they need to raise the cost of monthly and annual, so be it. Or offer a two-tiered approach where there is a slightly-less expensive one that is more ad-supported. Kind of like the Hulu model.
     
  3. Sep 24, 2019 #703 of 1966
    humbb

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    Based on info provided by @TiVo_Ted, I can only throw you this:
    • There will be no pre-roll ads on your TE3 boxes ... ever; and
    • If you have TE4 boxes now or are later forced to go TE3 -> TE4, you can apply for an exemption from these ads based on subscription plan and/or tenure. My hope is that Lifetimes (perhaps with a minimum number of years) will all qualify.
     
  4. Sep 24, 2019 #704 of 1966
    randian

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    I don't want ads either. Avoiding them was a big value-add for TiVo. Retail TiVos are where ads make the least sense, because those customers are probably the most sensitive to them and have the most freedom to switch boxes and services. Customers with MSO-branded TiVos presumably care the least about ads and other indecencies heaped upon them by the MSO, otherwise they'd switch. If TiVo's goal is to rid themselves of retail customers this would be an effective way to do it.

    A two-tiered approach doesn't exactly scream "bring down the out-of-pocket costs for consumers over time", does it?
     
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  5. Sep 24, 2019 #705 of 1966
    TKnight206

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    Lifetime is lifetime. It doesn't matter how many years. They got all the money up front. Under no situation would it be fair to subject lifetime subscribers to pre-roll ads. We can't vote with our wallets and walk away like monthly or annual subscribers can.
     
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  6. Sep 24, 2019 #706 of 1966
    randian

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    We're a captive audience, that makes us perfect ad subjects, just like when you go to a theater to watch a movie and see their stupid ads.
     
  7. Sep 24, 2019 #707 of 1966
    Mikeguy

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    Simply FYI, the update procedure is standard for the Guided Setup process.
     
  8. Sep 24, 2019 #708 of 1966
    TKnight206

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    Not a fair comparison. Maybe if the movie theater didn't originally have ads, sold subscriptions so you can walk in without paying, then decided to start showing ads, then we can talk.
     
  9. Sep 24, 2019 #709 of 1966
    Mikeguy

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    That's a good point--long live the Premiere! :)
     
  10. Sep 24, 2019 #710 of 1966
    humbb

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    So the Premiere is kinda like the "canary in the coal mine"? ;)
     
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  11. Sep 24, 2019 #711 of 1966
    caseybea

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    I used to tell everyone I know that cutting the cable cord, getting an antenna and a TIVO was absolutely great.

    I now plan to steer everyone I know AWAY from tivo products due to this disaster of a decision.
     
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  12. Sep 24, 2019 #712 of 1966
    tarheelblue32

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    Actually, that's not what he said. All he said was there are no current plans to bring pre-roll ads to TE3. Those plans could change next year, next month, or tomorrow.
     
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  13. Sep 24, 2019 #713 of 1966
    humbb

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    Fair enough. But in order to do that and add a "feature" they would have to take TE3 out of "Maintenance mode", and I don't know if that's ever been done before.

    More likely would be a forced update to TE4?
     
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  14. Sep 24, 2019 #714 of 1966
    slice1900

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    That would be a pretty stupid design. If your internet goes down you can't watch anything!
     
  15. Sep 24, 2019 #715 of 1966
    TKnight206

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    A forced "update" to TE4 won't go over well. How many people were panicking before over whether or not Hydra would be optional?

    Edited to fix grammar/typo.
     
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  16. Sep 24, 2019 #716 of 1966
    foghorn2

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    Ironic all the ads we see here on this site, some right alongside these words while we complain about ads.
     
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  17. Sep 24, 2019 #717 of 1966
    SullyND

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    I see no ads.
     
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  18. Sep 24, 2019 #718 of 1966
    reneg

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    I would claim that Tivo took the Tivo HD out of maintenance mode when adding H264 support to the Tivo HD for USA when Comcast changed how they transmit programs. It helped that Tivo already had H264 support for the Tivo HD in Australia, otherwise we probably would not have gotten the feature.

    Having spent my career in software/firmware engineering, here's the conditions that we would update a product that is in maintenance mode:
    • Widespread issue that would render a major portion of your user base inoperable (Like H264 on Tivo HD)
    • A security issue which allows your product to be compromised
    • A data integrity issue which compromises user data from data loss and/or data corruption
     
  19. Sep 24, 2019 #719 of 1966
    opfreak

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    Did you pay a lifetime fee to this site? Or 15 bucks a month?

    This move is a money grab by Tivo, one where they piss on a bunch of customers and they have the balls to tell us its raining, and its good for us.
     
  20. Sep 24, 2019 #720 of 1966
    opfreak

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    Yes, but now Tivo has bean counters that will create a powerpoint that says adding ads to TE3, will generate 1 million dollars a year, an it will cost XXXXXX less then that do implement.
     

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