TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

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  1. Sep 23, 2019 #681 of 2517
    jkovach

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    It really should be called a SBC (spinning blue circle), not a BSC. Has to do with the rules of proper order of adjectives.
     
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  2. Sep 23, 2019 #682 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    It wasn’t.
     
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  3. Sep 23, 2019 #683 of 2517
    Davelnlr_

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    Yea, I plugged in my Premier to get the software version, and noticed that it wouldnt even work with TE4. I had never paid attention, since it is my backup.
     
  4. Sep 23, 2019 #684 of 2517
    foghorn2

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    Ok , its been cleared, its coming weather we like it or not. Its just a key press to get rid of it.
    I was not happy with the news here and the stalling of the ad with the BSC was troubling.

    But if its seamless and requires another push on the remote to get rid of it, im fine with it.
    If pressing a button again will make you leave Tivo, I wish you well.

    If you are on TE3, why worry about it ?
     
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  5. Sep 23, 2019 #685 of 2517
    Davelnlr_

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    Believe the software is in PROM. It should load what was on it when you replaced the drive.
     
  6. Sep 23, 2019 #686 of 2517
    exdishguy

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    It was a spelling error. He meant "monetize." :)
     
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  7. Sep 23, 2019 #687 of 2517
    tommage1

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    Maybe. However since a Premiere can only run TE3 maybe they will keep TE3 intact for Roamios and Bolts too? All bets off if they "EOL" S2/S3/S4 though.
     
  8. Sep 23, 2019 #688 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    Hear, hear. One would hope that maintenance mode would at least clean-up significant bugs like this.
     
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  9. Sep 23, 2019 #689 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    I view this more like Roku and their Roku Channel app. It seems entirely reasonable for Roku to use advertising within their app to generate revenue, but Roku had better not start inserting an ad before each Netflix, Hulu, etc. program I play, or even at the launch of each app.
     
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  10. Sep 23, 2019 #690 of 2517
    TKnight206

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    I still submit suggestions for TE3 through the site on how to improve. Are these ignored, or will they possibly add features in the future?

    Some things I'd like to see, to name just a few...
    1. An automated way to mark which channels I receive. Starting from channel 1, going up to a user-defined limit, would mark which ones are received and which ones aren't along with HD status. Three to five second delay between channeling up.
    Then the user would have five choices in which channels are checked in the Channel List: HD only, SD only, HD Preferred, SD Preferred, and All.
    SD Preferred: If there is an HD and SD channel, same timezone, then it would remove the HD channel and list SD. SD takes up less space, and space may matter to some. Or they have it hooked up to an old TV.
    2. A way to mark favorite shows or PIN them to the top.
    3. A mono setting for audio. Oh how I miss this. My legacy DVR from Comcast had so many audio options.
    Anyone here watch South Park with headphones? The music is heavy on the right audio channel and it's immensely annoying.

    Anyone, good luck. I imagine customer service is going to have an awful time regarding this pre-roll ad issue.
     
  11. Sep 23, 2019 #691 of 2517
    exdishguy

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that most of us certainly hope that Tivo continues to develop premium solutions with features that trickle down into lower cost mass market models. And if you need ads to lower the cost of the mass market models, so be it. But I've paid $1k+ on average for each of my 5 Tivo's and honestly I'd pay it again if I could get newer hardware with less bloatware and adverts crap. I'm willing to pay for a premium offering and I suspect almost anybody on this forum that has been a Tivo customer fits this mold. It was what drove the growth of the company in the early days and has become the bane of public company these days as we no longer represent new subscribers and new revenue. So the direction Tivo needs to go in to make yourselves more mass-market appealing makes some sense. I just get disconnected on why there appears to be an abandonment of your higher-end premium customers. Product segmentation is still a valid method of offsetting product development costs, gaining knowledge/loyalty and voice-of-customer from your higher end customer base and then costing it down for the masses - to and including advertising subsidization.

    So while I'm happy to hear that TE3 will remain pre-roll free it still irks me that the many higher-end customers that brought you all to the dance are now being treated as though we should "get over it" and shoving this new ad-based approach down our throat. Sorry but you guys aren't a $20 HDMI thumbstick - you sell very very expensive DVRs for a very very premium price. Throwing software intended for the masses on our niche high-end DVRs is outrageous to me. Sorry.
     
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  12. Sep 23, 2019 #692 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    As if...
     
  13. Sep 23, 2019 #693 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    They all have the Advance button.
     
  14. Sep 23, 2019 #694 of 2517
    TKnight206

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    I hope I don't regret saying this, but if lifetime subscriptions aren't generating enough revenue, stop offering them. Or increase the price. Or offer a three- or five-year plan (in addition to monthly and annual) for revenue purposes. But please realize why we buy the boxes. My cable provider DVR fees became too expensive. But I also don't like being inudated with ads, whether it's TiVo Central menu ads, Pause ads, Folder ads, Delete ads, or Discovery Bar ads.

    Pre-roll ads only make sense when it comes to streaming content. It doesn't make sense whatsoever to add them before something we had recorded. It would be like a bookstore adding ad-based stickers at the beginning of books. Or even worse. (I won't mention the worse idea in a public forum.)

    I mentioned this before, and I'll mention it again. Allow us to opt-out of any and all ads. Whether it's the sponsored content in Discovery Bar, Delete ads, Pause ads, etc. TiVo receives revenue for these ads. They have a value. Allow an individual customer to match the value by paying an optional monthly fee to get rid of them.

    Edited to add: If you want to bring down the out-of-pocket costs for us consumers, how about letting us pay full cost as normal if we want? A two-tiered approach.
     
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  15. Sep 23, 2019 #695 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    @DigitalDawn, IIRC.

    edit: Yep, this post: No TE3 for the Edge, and future loss of rollback for BOLTs:

     
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  16. Sep 23, 2019 #696 of 2517
    cwoody222

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    They’re not adding features to TE3 now or in the future. Full stop.
     
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  17. Sep 23, 2019 #697 of 2517
    shannon94188

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    One user's experience here: I've been getting these ads on my Bolt for the past week, and have auto-skip enabled and it does NOT auto-skip this pre-roll ad. Once I press to skip the ad, the program begins to play and then auto-skip kicks in to get me to the start of my show.

    I called Saturday to get removed from these ads, and will report back when they're gone (or later this week nonetheless if they're still present).
     
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  18. Sep 23, 2019 #698 of 2517
    Pbarkey

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    I haven't received any ads YET. However, my annual subscription is up in October. I'm wondering if they are waiting for me to re-up before zonking me.

    Sent from my Google Pixelbook using Tapatalk
     
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  19. Sep 23, 2019 #699 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    Thanks for posting this feedback.
     
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  20. Sep 23, 2019 #700 of 2517
    krkaufman

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    Dunno. Could be you’re not running TE4 on a BOLT, the only scenario, currently, where the ads have been seen.
     
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