TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. Sep 19, 2019 #21 of 2517

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005


    Have not gotten those ads, and they would be totally unacceptable. I don't even appreciate the significantly shorter ones on free YouTube (and they impact my viewership). I wouldn't accept this on a subscription TiVo box, not do I think that I would accept it in a subscription-free TiVo box. It would be time to explore the Amazon Recast.
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  2. Sep 19, 2019 #22 of 2517

    johnfasc Active Member

    Dec 24, 2014
    Just info...I have an ota Roamio, hydra, latest system update and have not seen any ads previous to any recordings.
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  3. Sep 19, 2019 #23 of 2517

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Philly suburbs
    This is truly horrifying...
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  4. Sep 19, 2019 #24 of 2517

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

    Apr 19, 2012
    sweet home, al
    i'm wondering if @TiVo_Ted has any guidence?
  5. Sep 19, 2019 #25 of 2517

    Joe3 Active Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    Boston MA


    Wait, wait the astronomical observatory at Ottershaw has picked up explosions on the surface of the planet Mars, creating an eerie green glow, preparing for their arrival in a New Jersey field the night before Halloween.
  6. Sep 20, 2019 #26 of 2517

    KevTech Active Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    If the clock was off then I could see the Tivo catching ads before program starts.

    Tivo thinks it is 7 but it is really 6:59
  7. Sep 20, 2019 #27 of 2517

    smark Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2002
    Denver, CO
    That would beg the question of any padding setup on the recordings.
  8. Sep 20, 2019 #28 of 2517

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

    Mar 5, 2004
    You've got a drop in ad similar to what to what Sling, Direct TV Now, and some other streaming services drop into programming. Sounds like your cable co. is experimenting. The blue circle than the crappy SD video means there is delay pulling from a remote server. Are your cable provider and internet provider the same company. The other possibility is Tivo is experimenting and maybe you weren't supposed to get the ad.
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  9. Sep 20, 2019 #29 of 2517

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    The fact that the TiVo play bar doesn't show until after the ad seems to prove that it's being inserted by the TiVo and not part of the recording.

    What the actual f*ck! Seriously if they force this on us I'm going to be p*ssed. I hate ads! I've paid TiVo thousands upon thousands of dollars over the years to avoid them in my recorded TV. If they start trying to force their own ads onto me I'm done.
  10. Sep 20, 2019 #30 of 2517

    CloudAtlas Bryan

    Oct 29, 2013
    New York, NY
    Unfortunately Roku has shown how profitable ads can be. Hopefully TiVO is testing this for the OEM market and not retail. Not ideal but if this keeps TiVO in business I can deal with one upfront commercial. The people who buy retail TiVo’s are not very profitable customers. They do not buy directly from TiVO forcing TiVO to split profits with retailers. They buy onetime All-In service and then hold onto hardware forever. And now a lot of the TCF customers have become addicted to only paying rock bottom $599 DVR+All-In SALE prices. I’m surprised TiVO waited so long.
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  11. Sep 20, 2019 #31 of 2517

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Fairfax, VA
    Nice discovery! But unfortunate!

    I did mention the other day pre-rolls have been tested but not clear how and when they’d be utilized. I imagine this would be more a MSO solution or a subsidized retail offering, rather than something we’ll see on existing hardware/service.

    May I publish the video? Any pics of ads in guide? Thanks!
  12. Sep 20, 2019 #32 of 2517

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

    Aug 2, 2003
    "Rock bottom" and $600? These are concepts that don't belong together.
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  13. Sep 20, 2019 #33 of 2517

    andyf Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2000
    Feel free to download the video and host it yourself. No ads in the guide.
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  14. Sep 20, 2019 #34 of 2517

    BNBTivo Active Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    $600 is "rock bottom"? Lol. Woah!
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  15. Sep 20, 2019 #35 of 2517

    edwinyuen Member

    Dec 29, 2010
    It's interesting as I have seen the exact same thing on my Bolt but I didn't think it was a drop-in Ad. I thought there was a bug where it was playing the beginning of another random show and almost all shows play a couple seconds of the commercial before the start of the show I ask for. I guess I never let the ad play more than a second or so before I hit FF and it went away. But I've seen it happen several times in the past week or so. :(
  16. Sep 20, 2019 #36 of 2517

    andyf Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2000
    I thought the same thing at first. The clincher is when you go to play the show again from the beginning you get a totally different ad.
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  17. Sep 20, 2019 #37 of 2517

    bob1000 New Member

    Aug 15, 2019
    I use My Premiere to record shows I can't get on Hulu, Netflix, Prime, or using Playon Desktop recordings. Playon has an adequate commercial skipper for recordings, providing the media PC has a strong processor (mine is an i5-4590T, passmark of about 5400). I was thinking about upgrading to the new Tivo when it comes out, but now will wait for reviews.

    Roku is my main access point to streaming. My pfSense router has an add on package called pfBlockerNG. It blocks as many ads as I can find lists for. This is blocking over the entire household. At this time, it seems to block Roku ads well. I occasionally have to whitelist sites so the home computers get access to the right sites and features.
  18. Sep 20, 2019 #38 of 2517

    texasPI Member

    May 9, 2010
    I use Pi-hole in a similar way and have not seen ads like these in TiVo or Roku.
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  19. Sep 20, 2019 #39 of 2517

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

    May 28, 2005
    New Mexico...
    These ads are TRULY HORRIBLE in my opinion. Absolutely unacceptable, and they have made me seriously start looking at TiVo alternatives that I have always ignored. I have seen a lot of these pre-roll ads, and I am too disgusted for family-friendly words. I have never been interested in replacing my TiVos, but that has totally changed now, and I am certain I will never spend another cent with this company unless they turn this around! They have violated their implied contract with me, and they cannot be trusted.

    Here is another BIG problem you will start to see with these ads: You can sometimes skip them before they start by hitting the jump forward button during that nasty BSC (but they seem to be trying to disable that). If you regularly try that, you will frequently see your TiVo lock up and then reboot after about a 30 second wait! The first clue that you have been screwed is a short error message that says "Can't play now. E117"; once you see that, it WILL eventually reboot.

    BTW, the pre-roll commercials are absolutely NOT recorded with the show - if you stream a show from another box running TE3 (or copy it to a Series 3), the nasty ads are NOT seen. I have now totally quit watching ANYTHING directly on my one TE4 box for this very reason.
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2019
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  20. Sep 20, 2019 #40 of 2517

    samsauce29 Active Member TCF Club

    Nov 30, 2007
    Erie, PA
    I haven't paid enough attention yet (Summer shows are the wife's department) to know if we have these.

    Curious if everyone seeing this behavior is on TE4?

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
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