TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    The following is from my last post; I hope it helps if you need to do that:
    That post goes on to explain how we're moving on from TiVo here, now that TiVo (Rovi, Xperi) has pretty much moved on from us.
     
  2. Fofer

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    ^ and that only works on recordings from channels that don’t have the copyright flag set. For many customers with many cablecos, that eliminates lots and lots of recordings from being allowed to transfer.
     
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  3. Salacious Crumb

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    Maybe v7goose works for tivo since his info is all wrong too. :D
     
  4. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    ^ true, which is why I wrote "most shows". Being on Comcast/Xfinity and with no premium channels, this has always worked smoothly for me.

    Another reason we're moving to Channels DVR instead of TE4 is that we can upload our own videos. Our TE3 TiVos have always hosted clips of our kids in parades, and other family stuff like that. Easy to do with pytivo, until TE4. I will miss TiVo though.
     
  5. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    :rolleyes: Downgrading to TE3 is a REAL solution, regardless of your personal opinion on it.

    Everything else is a Tivo alternative, not a solution to Tivo ad problems.
     
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  6. Salacious Crumb

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    How is it REAL if i LOSE all my recordings.
     
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  7. ManeJon

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    Mine were removed a while ago after 1 contact - except for 1 program - I record Jeopardy every weeknight and it sill has the arrows and ad before the show - very strange. I'm not going to contact about it because that might screw everything else up.
     
  8. Fofer

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    Seems like you’re the obsessed one, you keep replying to me to push your narrative.

    It’s a “solution” for you, clearly not for many. What it is, is a downgrade and a workaround. With significant caveats, that many of us find completely unacceptable.

    Even longtime TiVo loyalist and notable blogger Dave Zatz left TiVo for greener pastures over this pathetic situation.

    https://zatznotfunny.com/2020-05/quitting-tivo/
     
  9. aaronwt

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    I swear these ads keep pissing me off. I have them removed and initially it's only the Bolts and Roamios they get removed from. Then I have to contact them again to get removed off the Minis. Then it's fine for awhile and then the Ads show up again. Rinse and repeat.
     
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  10. Pokemon_Dad

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  11. NotVeryWitty

    NotVeryWitty Too Big to Fail

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    Yes, but you have CEC support. ;-/
     
  12. Fofer

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    And automatic, hands-free commercial skip. And a refreshed, modern UI. And no lost recordings from the downgrade. ;-/
     
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  13. Fofer

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    Yes, I know about pyTivo, and no, it’s not the same.
     
  14. slowbiscuit

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    You can keep recordings from any channel that's not CP'd, so that's keeping it REAL.
     
  15. hapster85

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    I blocked TiVo's ad server from my router a month or so ago. It's not perfect, but it mostly works. You still see the gray arrows for a few seconds before playback begins. Once in a while, playback aborts after a few seconds, dropping back to TiVo Central. Then you just have to try it again. Has so far always worked on the second try, so I can live with it.
     
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  16. PajamaFeet

    PajamaFeet This Is Delicious

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    This was the scenario that brought me to this thread in the first place. We time shift a morning news program daily. The show was in progress when DH clicked My Shows and tried to play from the beginning. The pre-roll ad crashed our Bolt, deleted the part of the news program already recorded and started recording again after crash recovery. We have a OnePass set up to keep only one episode. I knew to go in the Deleted Items folder to recover that first part of the news program...but what a pain. I shouldn't have to solve a technical puzzle just to watch the news on TiVo before having my first cup of coffee.

    The unit had crashed probably a dozen times before that over several weeks, but that interrupted recording spurred me to look for answers. Thanks for all the info on this forum.

    I first contacted Support via Chat and was not happy with the response. Rather than removing pre-roll ads for me, they said they'd "look into it." So, I sent an email a day or so later. The pre-roll ads have stopped. If they start up again, I'll email or call support again. Not at all interested in downgrading to TE3. Actually very interested to read in this thread about creating a Pi-Hole to get rid of some other ad annoyances. I work from home and even through my employer's VPN I get some inappropriate ad content. Nothing like sharing my screen about some research topic with a colleague only to have an inappropriate ad on the side of the page.

    Before I read what they were called, we called the pre-roll ads "those new garbage ads."
     
  17. Salacious Crumb

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    But what if i have a bunch from cpd channels.
     
  18. Fofer

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    The more I think about it, I’m just kind of hard-pressed to think of a more “user hostile” move a company could have made. To introduce these ads, in this way, and then force informed customers to opt out, and even then, only temporarily, when they also know that these ads are crashing people’s boxes?

    Even if it hasn’t happened to me yet, the very notion of it and TiVo’s poor handling is loathsome to me, feels like blatant writing on the wall, and in principle I don’t feel comfortable supporting the company anymore as a result of it. Especially when there are greener pastures for me elsewhere.

    I'm also annoyed that they dropped development of the promised streaming app for AppleTV, Roku, and other streaming boxes:
    TiVo finally gives an update on its promised Apple TV app - 9to5Mac

    Yet they add new apps to the TiVo Stream, like HBO Max:

    While that TiVo Stream doesn't stream from their own DVRs, they expect you to subscribe to Sling. And their DVRs don't get new apps, like HBO Max.

    What a mess.
     
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  19. JKR123

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    Has anyone figured out the rhyme or reason as to why these ads keep coming back after we have successfully gotten TiVo support to remove them? How can they justify continuing to push these changes out to boxes that successfully had them removed, especially when these changes cause some boxes to crash? I am frustrated that not only did I have to call TiVo support yet again today to get these ads removed, but I missed the endings of each of the recordings that I had in process when my machine rebooted. I can live with either the TE3 or TE4 layout, but I shouldn’t have to downgrade to TE3 and lose all of my recordings just to address this issue. I also shouldn’t have to make changes to my router settings (which I know nothing about doing) to try and block these ads from reaching my machines. How did we get to the place where we have to put in work-arounds to address TiVo’s issues? Why don’t they just fix the problems these ads are causing or just totally remove them? I have lost count of the number of times I have had to contact TiVo support about this as it has been an on-going issue since last September. They have to be spending a lot more time dealing with these removal requests and then removing the ads piecemeal from the same boxes over and over than the time they would have spent to fix this problem. I guess the real problem is that TiVo support has never seemed to take ownership that this is a problem that they need to address.
     
  20. PSU_Sudzi

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    The TiVo cable DVRs are most likely dead men walking.
     

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