TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    This is exactly why TE3 needs to continually be mentioned as a solution to Tivo's awful forced ad decision and the never-ending botched rollout.
     
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  2. Fofer

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    Meh, anytime anyone recommends TE3 as the “solution” to this issue, invites the necessary feedback about what functionality that downgrade would remove and how it would affect the overall UX.

    This conversation also speaks to the overall direction that TiVo, as a company, is clearly headed. I could just as easily tout Channels DVR or YouTube TV as a “solution” to the problems and limitations of TE3, then.
     
  3. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Active Member

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    It's only a functionality downgrade to you, or your needs. Not everyone has your needs or shares your taste.

    And no, you can't just easily tout those because people are already invested in Tivo Hardware. The money has been paid. You're premise is to start paying for a streaming service or invest in new hardware. While Te4 is your preference, which is fine, the latter part, you're just wrong.

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  4. Fofer

    Fofer Bo55man69

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    It all comes down to personal priorities. Some solutions cost more money, that’s true. That shouldn’t mean they are disqualified as a solution. Do the pros outweigh the cons? That’s what it comes down to.

    It’s up to each individual to decide what works best for them.
     
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  5. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Active Member

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    Umm... This is a Tivo thread talking about preroll ads. People are looking for solutions for their tivo hardware. So yes, it's wrong. I'm all for differing opinions, but last I checked this isn't a Tivo alternatives thread. You suggesting to use other services and ditch the tivo hardware is just nonsensical. Seriously, you're letting your own personal distaste for TE3 overshadow pretty much the entire thread at this point, and it clearly shows.

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  6. Fofer

    Fofer Bo55man69

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    The ignore button remains a very valid option for you. I haven’t participated unkindly nor have I broken any forum rule.

    After 20 years as a loyalist to this platform, I’m clearly disappointed by how badly TiVo has dropped the ball.

    That said, the good news for you is, I’ll probably be moving to greener and more forward-thinking pastures as a result, so won’t participate in these sad threads anymore.
     
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  7. Fofer

    Fofer Bo55man69

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    It’s one of how many dozen discussing the same thing?

    On a TiVo forum! It’s not like this topic exists in a vacuum.
     
  8. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

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    Yes, in a fair and reasonable manner, and many of us are able to do that without trashing or making insulting comments about the opposite choice so that others can make informed decisions.
    To you it's a downgrade, to me it's a stable OS that offers features the other doesn't and doesn't have aggressive ad-pushing on it, seriously, it's that easy to have a reasonable conversation.
     
  9. DigitalDawn

    DigitalDawn Active Member

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    Diane, you are 100% correct.
     
  10. Fofer

    Fofer Bo55man69

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    Except that changing from TE4 to TE3 (which loses recordings, too) is *literally* a downgrade, by the very definition of the word "downgrade."
     
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  11. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Active Member

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    In number only. Let it go. You seem to be the only one who has such vehement hatred for it you need to endlessly shout it from the mountain tops. But apparently it's not sinking in.

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  12. Fofer

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    Nah, one can say the same about people obsessively insisting the downgrade to TE3 is the defacto "solution" here.

    You can let it go by using the ignore button. It's not my job to cater to your misplaced sensitivities. That's not how large discussion groups on the internet work.
     
  13. JoeFloyd

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    Tivo user for 18+ years and I'm starting to look for other options.

    On my 4 tuner Roamio with TE4 I've had two reboots during Pre-Roll today when trying to stream from my 6 tuner Roamio Pro with TE3. I use streaming between Tivos frequently and today is the first time I've had two reboots within such a short period of time. Pre-Roll screen starts and then after a few seconds with no Ad the device either starts the expected program or the Tivo Boot Screen. I've had intermittent reboots since Pre-Roll was added to TE4, but today has been a particularly bad day for reboots.

    Since the Tivo which rebooted was recording when the reboot occurred, I now have interrupted recordings.

    The Pre-Roll crap is such a waste of time. It doesn't work 90% of the time (no ad played which I can't say I mind other than the delay starting recording playback) and this reboot issue is definitely tied to the Pre-Roll software.

    The Tivo of the early 2000's is no longer the Tivo of today. A company which used to concentrate on giving the Tivo user control over their TV is now in the business of trying to control and influence what appears on our TVs.
     
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  14. ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Well-Known Member

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    TiVo needs a mascot that would bring their fans back. We can make it to a reality show. If we had a time machine we could have gone back in time To conception and watch him grow up in front of the world. They would of made more money then MR Brain. But we live in “today’s” world and now TiVo is just a drop of water in the entire ocean.:)
     
  15. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    Hope you can get TiVo to remove the preroll ads while you consider alternatives. Failing that, as you can see from the discussion above one option is to "sidegrade" the TE4 Roamio to TE3. It should be noted that with something like pytivo desktop you can back up most shows from any TiVo to a PC, but can only move them back to a TiVo that's on TE3.

    But back to the alternatives. We're transitioning to Channels DVR here [photo] [details]. It was very simple to install on a Synology NAS, and I got an HD HomeRun Prime off eBay then inserted and easily paired a CableCARD that used to be in a TiVo. Channels has a high WAF here, lol, and offers a much more modern interface than TE3 or even TE4. No preroll ads, and yes it offers automatic commercial skip.

    For the Channels client apps and for Netflix/Prime/etc. streaming, I again selected the solution with the highest WAF, that being a Fire TV 4K Stick and a couple of Fire TV Edition sets. Channels also offers clients for Apple TV, iOS, and Android. For more on that and other alternatives, see the TiVo Alternatives thread.
     
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  16. Fofer

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    Now we’re talking. Forward thinkers who see the bigger picture, and the writing on the wall, offering REAL solutions.
     
  17. V7Goose

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

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    By the way, did anybody happen to mention that TE3 is a perfect solution to this problem? No ads, much easier to use, more stable, more functional, and looks better too!
     
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  18. Salacious Crumb

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    If i go back to te3 dont i lose all my recordings ??
    So how is it perfect ??
     
  19. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

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    Nothing is ever perfect, life is a series of compromises that we make in service to ourselves.
     
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  20. Fofer

    Fofer Bo55man69

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    It's certainly not. Far from it. You lose recordings, as well as TE4 exclusive features like handsfree commercial skip, and CEC remote control.

    So long as you're facing compromises, it's a good time to look at the bigger picture and explore the even better "solutions" out there in the real world, in 2020 and beyond.
     
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