TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. dbpaddler

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    It's embarrassing? Do guests and family members laugh asking why your TV is from the 80's? It's on my 135" screen in my theater room. Have zero issues with it. I don't need CEC though, and I never once had to complain to tivo about any commercials/ads.

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  2. Fofer

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    Yes, it’s embarrassing. Makes me cringe. I haven’t had to call yet either. I just know TE3 doesn’t belong in my AV setup anymore so gloating about it as any kind of “solution” to this TE4 concern... is daft.
     
  3. dbpaddler

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    One man's embarrassment is another's nostalgia. Te4 is cold and bland looking. No style. No personality. No real differentiation. If you don't need whatever functionality it provides over te3, I just don't see the point of using it and having to whine every so often about calling in and complaining.

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  4. mattyro7878

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    I happen to like both UI's. The look of TE3 imo, is lovely. On my Premiere it is a little wonky. When I hit the Tivo button I get a black screen with a corner of video for 3 seconds then the options appear. By no means a deal breaker. TE4 seems a little more sophisticated (because it is) and has no live guide which is so nice. One click and you see whats on for 4-8 hours. Nothing better. If Tivo is to survive going forward, TE4 is the compatible answer. Thats just the way it is.
     
  5. dbpaddler

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    Well considering there is zero new equipment I have interest in, I don't care if it dies. If they want to make a Dvr that can do either cable or OTA and has android tv underneath, then I'll entertain it. I just don't see the point in buying new equipment, at a premium to boot, that limits me to one type of live TV watching and still requires me to have a separate streaming device.

    So no love lost if tivo dies. I'll figure out a solution and move on.

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  6. mtnagel

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    Had to google what TE3 looked like as I just got my Roamio 2 years ago and it came with TE4. Wow, that pretty much looks like my DirecTV tivo, which I had easily 15 years ago I'm guessing. Not necessarily a bad thing, but definitely it's nostalgic looking for me and brings back memories.
     
  7. dianebrat

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    The problem is that there are proponants on both sides, and the passion for folks on each side can be pretty strong, but when you go past "I'm a TE4 person because it offers me these features" and those of us on the other side say "and I'm a TE3 person for these reasons" both sides have valid points, it's when you start making what "I" view as irrelevant derogatory statements like "TE3 is embarrassing to look at" that you've now made it personal and that's why people on the other side take it personally.

    Me? I'll never give up my Live Guide, so that eliminates TE4 and its pre-roll ads and Tivo+ from ever coming near my system, I view those as "embarrassing" ;)
     
  8. mtnagel

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    What’s live guide?
     
  9. Fofer

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    I disagree and would describe TE3 that way, maybe worse.

    And “nostalgia” in interface and overall UX is NOT what I’m looking for in my home theater. I find that rationalization to be somewhat laughable. A VCR would be “nostalgic” too.
     
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    Sorry about the quality. The manual itself isn't so good either.
     
  11. dbpaddler

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    As mentioned above, that's why it's a "personal" experience. Bright primary colors pop on my jvc. Dull gray, not so much.

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  12. Fofer

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    My distaste goes far beyond mere color scheme, though.

    And my TV and movie watching these days goes very far beyond DVR’ing broadcast and cable shows. As a streaming device, the TiVo (on TE3 and TE4, to be fair) is an absolute pathetic joke. Downgrading to TE3 just to avoid the possibility of persist pre-roll ads and removing CEC along with it (to me) is a losing game.
     
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  13. dbpaddler

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    Was going to say, that's a general tivo issue regardless of firmware.

    Also why I said I don't care if tivo dies at this point. I have no interest in their new dvrs since you're forced to buy separate boxes for cable and OTA. And they still don't integrate a complete streaming experience. I might even sell my Bolt and just get a roamio OTA since I have a roamio pro if I go back to cable. And the roamio has better tuners, and I'm all wired. So the Bolt doesn't really offer me anything.

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  14. mtnagel

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    I didn’t say I was going to switch because it was nostalgic. I really don’t care about my OTA DVRs UI that much as I don’t use it that much. We stream a lot more now. I do find it interesting how passionately you do care about the UI.
    Ah. I don’t really care about that so I’m not missing anything. Maybe if I had cable I’d care a little more. But with OTA, I’m rarely looking at the guide.
     
  15. wbrightfl

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    Diane, I could not agree with you more. Well said.
     
  16. Fofer

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    Suggesting that *interface* is an irrelevant and non-differentiating feature is a non-starter with me. I’m not criticizing anyone else’s priorities, I’m obviously sharing my own opinion on the matter.

    User interface and overall user experience separates Windows from macOS, Android from iOS, Tesla from Honda, Google Assistant from Alexa.

    Each option gets you to roughly the same place, but they go about it quite differently. And the little things always end up adding up.

    UI and UX is why I chose a DVR over a new VCR in 2000. UI and UX are practically *everything.* For me, at least.
     
  17. dbpaddler

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    OK. Thanks for sharing.

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  18. dianebrat

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    I view features I use and leverage on a regular basis vs extraneous advertising that I will never use as deciding factors on a DVR. As I said before and you blew right by, when you make it personal and toss insults for NO OBVIOUS REASON, people react personally, you've been around long enough to know that as have I.

    If you'd drop the "TE4 is oh so awesome and TE3 is for bottom dwellers" approach and give some respect that others have different views then you would get respect back.
     
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  19. Fofer

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    I’m insulting the interface and overall usability of a product, not people. I haven’t called anyone “bottom-dwellers” or demeaned anybody, and the hyperbole isn’t helping this conversation.

    I haven’t even claimed TE4 is “oh so awesome,” either. Far from it. Seems you’re blowing past many points in my posts, too.
     
  20. slowbiscuit

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    *shrug* you're the one bitching 10,000% times this about it, new folks who don't read entire threads need to know there is an answer to the problem.
     
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