TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

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  1. Sep 21, 2019 #221 of 2517
    lparsons21

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  2. Sep 21, 2019 #222 of 2517
    dobbie1

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    I've owned TiVo's (many) since 2002, all with lifetime subs. I will not be replacing any from now own. There are many streaming options without commercials for any show that I want to watch. It was good while it lasted.
     
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  3. Sep 21, 2019 #223 of 2517
    NashGuy

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    Verizon Fios is Raising Its DVR & Set-Top Box Fees to $24 Per Box - Cord Cutters News

    Also, if you keep up your behavior, I will report you to the forum moderators for harassment.
     
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  4. Sep 21, 2019 #224 of 2517
    lparsons21

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    I’ve been twiddling with streaming/OTA this month. Subbed to Sling Blue+DVR. Trick play with DVR was hit or miss, some programs you could, others you couldn’t.

    Looking forward to see what you find on ad skipping with Channels.

    For me I’ll stick with Tivo until something more unified comes along for streaming/OTA. Apple’s TV app is a step in the right direction, just need to bring more streaming services into the fold.


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  5. Sep 21, 2019 #225 of 2517
    Joe3

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    Yea, you go sit back and pull the the sheet over your head. Because it worked so well for your generation
     
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  6. Sep 21, 2019 #226 of 2517
    NashGuy

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    If you want to stick with Sling TV for streaming cable channels, and combine that with free OTA TV, the most unified solution would be the new AirTV Mini for your TV streaming device, with an AirTV black box network tuner to bring in your OTA. You would connect your OTA antenna and a USB hard drive to the tuner and then you'd have streaming and OTA live channels, with cloud and local DVR, all integrated into the same native UI of the AirTV Mini. [EDIT: But be aware that they're due to roll out an updated version of the AirTV tuner any time now.]

    Actually, you wouldn't even need the AirTV Mini, necessarily. You could instead use the Sling app on other streaming devices. The AirTV Mini is a customized Google Android TV streamer with Sling taking over the home-screen UI. And the remote control is custom-built for Sling.
     
  7. Sep 21, 2019 #227 of 2517
    tommage1

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    Well here is what I think. Almost any corporation will do anything they can to get more money. Especially if they have a product where there is not a good alternative. Tivo no different. As for ads, you know Tivo has a generous return/replacement policy for boxes that go "bad". Wondered why they do it, have to be losing a lot on hardware/shipping. So I am thinking they must make a lot, even the majority of profit on the ads and selling your history?..........................

    Supposedly they will be eliminating roll backs to TE3 soon. And the new Edge will not be able to use TE3 at all. All this going on including these pre-roll ads, going to cause a LOT of problems with current subscribers. But long run anyone buying a Tivo for the first time will know nothing different. All they will know is TE4 and these new ads. So in the long run that is what we can expect I guess, whatever makes Tivo the most money. Perhaps they do have a way to shut down these ads for current subscribers, the 72 hour thing. But I think in the long run it will be here to stay as all new customers will know nothing different. Goodbye to DVRs as we know them, the cable card thing and possibly ATSC 3 bad enough, now ADS before playing a recording............................
     
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  8. Sep 21, 2019 #228 of 2517
    exdishguy

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    Do they have 30-second skip and something similar to OnePass? If so, I have to give this alternative a serious look. I don't care about auto-skip. Shoot me a link or PM me with it to any good forums and optimal setups if you don't mind. I'm totally down with throwing in a NAS and two 6-tuner HDHomeruns. I've got Apple TVs, Rokus, smart TVs all over the house. If I can program a Logitech remote to control things similar to the Tivo peanut, I'm good there too.

    I've had enough of this **** with this company. Weather-boy clearly thinks the best way to drive up the valuation for the product business to sell it off is to create an advertising and data mining platform.
     
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  9. Sep 21, 2019 #229 of 2517
    WVZR1

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    I'll SCREAM 'HARASSMENT' ALSO'!!!!! I really try to 'ignore' you but then you're with the I read or I think. I believe I've pretty much stuck to 'fact & first hand' experience. I'm sorry you can't/don't see the intended 'HUMOR/SARCASM'
     
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  10. Sep 21, 2019 #230 of 2517
    Mike Lang

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    We're getting complaints about how some of you are reacting to this topic. Some are getting far too emotional & personal to to the point of not being able to have a conversation with others. Don't get your posting privileges revoked over something like this.
     
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  11. Sep 21, 2019 #231 of 2517
    wombat94

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    Channels has 30 second skip (and 7 second skip back) and has recording passes (I haven't tried wishlist type recordings yet).

    The best place to find out is at their website getchannels.com - they have an active community forum there with interaction with the developers from the company.

    As for two 6-tuner HDHomeruns, unfortunately the 6 tuner model hasn't been released yet - and is in serious question of being permanent vaporware in my mind. It was announced in January 2018 and has continued to slip.

    Older 3 tuner HDHomeruns for cablecard are only available used, but there are 2 or 4 tuner OTA boxes available and they work well from what I can tell.

    For me, I decided that with the support for TVEverywhere and tuner sharing - where if multiple devices are watching the same thing it only takes up one tuner, I can make do with one 3-tuner cablecard box. If necessary, I might supplement with a dual tuner OTA box as well.

    I'm using my Logitech harmony with the AppleTV client and it works well so far.
     
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  12. Sep 21, 2019 #232 of 2517
    mntvjunkie

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    Here's the thing. Tivo doesn't pay for the production, and nowhere does it say that Tivo will send this money to the networks, who DO pay for the production.

    We have been told that our $15 per month or $600 for lifetime fee is what pays for the Tivo "service". Bandwidth costs to deliver the data have gone down (substantially) and they now own the company providing the guide data, so they should be getting a good "deal" on that now too. As for the cost of software, they haven't updated it THAT much in a year-over-year basis, but I agree, that costs money. Again, that's what I am paying for.

    If my cable company can cover the cost of the hardware AND software for $10 a month, why can't Tivo at least cover the cost of software for $15?
     
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    tommiet

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    chiguy50

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    Just use the Ignore feature. It's better for your blood pressure and we will all thank you for your courtesy.

    Your Account > People You Ignore
     
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  15. Sep 21, 2019 #235 of 2517
    Joe3

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    Well, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's not a squirrel :) If it looks sneaky and callous, yea, it's sneaky and callous. It says to their loyal base of customers, here's some mud in your eyes to go with our shoveling ads down your dumb throats because your so stupid, you'll swallow anything. This behavior is unacceptable and needs to be sent strong messages that says, not in my home, not on my family's TiVo your not. This is the kind of behavior that is unacceptable and Tivo must be severely financially punished for it. The Courts should kill the company because stupidity, their continued stupidity cannot repeatedly be rewarded.
     
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  16. Sep 21, 2019 #236 of 2517
    carterblumeyer

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    I would say that I will have to look at keeping the service really hard now.. however @tivo I would be fine in seeing ads if there is no monthly subscription or paying monthly for no ads.. I always wondered why they ever charged for monthly as the money for them is definitely in the data profiles on what shows we watch, how long we watch them, apps we use and shows, videos and topics we view.. this is where the money is to the content providers and networks..

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  17. Sep 21, 2019 #237 of 2517
    lparsons21

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    Thanks for the suggestions. With my indoor antenna I can get ABC, Fox and their subchannels. With Sling Blue I get NBC on demand and I sub to CBS All Access. Given that I could use my Bolt for the locals it can get OTA and AppleTV for everything else.

    That said, the difference between streaming/OTA and my current cable bill isn’t enough to want to lose the convenience that cable brings to the table. In the future when the ‘deal’ I’m on expires and it goes full retail, I’ll make some changes. Most likely not including new boxes.


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  18. Sep 21, 2019 #238 of 2517
    NashGuy

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    I'm a big fan of the Channels app. Use it with an HDHomeRun OTA tuner for live TV on my Apple TV 4K. I don't subscribe to their DVR service but it looks very nice.

    But I wonder about this new feature that they recently rolled out that lets you locally record streaming content from cable channels' TV Everywhere apps/websites using your cable provider log-in credentials. Is there a simple way for those cable channels to block that practice? It's not like Channels DVR has a ton of users, so maybe they're flying below the radar and the cable networks don't even know about it. Or if they do know, they don't care since it's being used by so few folks.

    That said, Channels doesn't sell lifetime subscriptions to their DVR service, so if that feature got removed at some point, it's not like you're locked in.
     
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  19. Sep 21, 2019 #239 of 2517
    NashGuy

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    Lead para:

    So much for it being an early, experimental test. TiVo has confirmed that it plans to place pre-roll video advertisements before DVR recordings for all customers — even those with a lifetime subscription plan. “DVR advertising is going to be a permanent part of the service,” a company spokesperson flatly told Light Reading. “We expect to be fully rolled out to all eligible retail devices within 90 days.”
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2019 #240 of 2517
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    Even with ads, I'll probably keep using my existing Roamio OTA until it quits working. But I won't be replacing it.
     
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