TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by andyf, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. dbpaddler

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    Yes, but build quality is inferior and no built in moca. And no 4k streaming options. Might not matter to some. Have had two go down. They also use cheap AC adapters for it compared to say the ones on the Bolt.

    Edit, and the streaming. Being called Basic is an understatement. It's more like the Roamio Cheap.

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  2. schatham

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    Yes, if people only use Antenna it saves a lot of money. Big cost savings.
     
  3. dbpaddler

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    I do miss having OTA and Cable on one box. I'd use OTA for all of my broadcast recording and the difference was notable.

    I keep contemplating getting an XL4 and picking up a Chromecast Ultra for 4k streaming. You can get them with lifetime for about $120-140.

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    XL4 doesn't do OTA, you would want an XL or one of the first Premieres.
     
  5. OrangeTurtle

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    I actually really liked my Roamio basic- loved that it could do either cable or OTA ( I've switched back and forth based on finances). Switched to a renewed bolt a year ago- have been happy with that too (has same options as the roamio basic, but don't need the Tivo Stream). Hard drive is small, but I make it work.

    Nervous about the future of Tivo. I used to sing praises to people about it. Now, I'm not even willing to recommend it to others.

    Agree the edge was a huge disappointment. I called Tivo about the pre roll ads to opt out- then I also went back from TE 4 to TE 3. I've used both for good lengths of time and must say I didn't "hate" TE 4, but don't want to worry about the ad issues (and am worried at some point they won't let you revert to old software (like other tech companies do).
     
  6. dbpaddler

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    Guess I meant to say the XL 4 tuner that has both coax inputs.

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  7. Mikeguy

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    I haven't had that experience and can't recall posts here along those lines, from other box owners. I would assume that the bulk of the Roamio boxes is identical. Just anecdotally, but my Roamio Basic box has been pretty solid.
    Why would TE4 run any differently on the Roamio Basic box than on the other Roamio boxes? I haven't heard of that before (perhaps I missed some posts).
     
  8. Fofer

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    The Roamio Basic has lesser hardware specs than the Plus or Pro. Over the years I have read many complaints that say the cheapie Basic model doesn’t run TE4 as well as the more expensive models.
     
  9. Mikeguy

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    I know that the Roamio Basic box doesn't have built-in MoCA or streaming, but I hadn't heard that there was any other difference in the base engineering (apart from where the power supply is located, and cable vs. OTA) such as that I would think that running TE4 would be any different. In fact, given that it's TiVo, I would have thought that things would be equal (it's typically cheaper that way). Interesting.

    But I'm not looking to experiment and see with my TE3 Roamio Basic box, lol.
     
  10. dbpaddler

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    The basic is very basic and cheap from the inside out. Funny enough, just from a feel point of view, the Bolt isn't any better.

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  11. Mikeguy

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    Interesting that you have those impressions--I just don't see a basis for it, myself.
     
  12. Fofer

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    Because all you have is the Roamio Basic and nothing else to compare it to, and aren't even running TE4...?
     
  13. Mikeguy

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    No, because of logic and what's already been determined about the engineering between the boxes (with nothing having been noted of a difference between the core technology), and because I haven't seen this having been claimed with technological support before.

    I guess that you and others must have various different Roamio box models and have tested these matters out.
     
  14. Fofer

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    There were many reasons it was the cheapest.
     
  15. Chuck_IV

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    I have one of each, a Roamio Basic, Roamio Plus and a Bolt.

    The Roamio Basic and Plus ran TE4 equally. While TE4 didn’t run like a dog, it was not snappy and downright laggy at times. The Bolt ran TE4 fine but the prerolls(on the Bolt) and the guide ad intrusions(on all 3) made me roll back all of them to TE3.

    On TE3 both my Roamios are now back to being snappy and efficient again and the Bolt on TE3(it came with TE4 preinstalled) is blazing.

    I do not use any of the streaming apps as I have other streaming boxes that are MUCH better for that.




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  16. Fofer

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    To clarify, in case it wasn’t clear: no prerolls on Roamios.
     
  17. JoeKustra

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    My basic Roamio on TE4 doesn't suck, but it's not as quick as the Mini VOX slave using it. When problems are posted about a Roamio, seldom is it a Roamio basic. That could be because most members don't add three or four Mini slaves to it. I just read a post asking if it was worth upgrading, due to the sale, a 6-year old basic Roamio to a Bolt. Too many Bolts appear to have an 18 month lifespan. TiVo isn't offering free replacement Roamio hard drives. I don't own a Bolt. I make do with four basic Roamio units, a Premiere and three Mini. The TE4 Roamio is slower that the TE3 Roamio but not as slow as a TE3 Premiere. My cable company rents the Arris/TiVo box. I don't think they are flying off the shelf. I'm just glad to not have a guide with ads and pre-roll ads. I have a Roku, so that's one more thing I can't complain about.
     
  18. Fofer

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    Hard disagree. I have seen very many complaints here and elsewhere about issues with Roamio Basics over the years, especially running TE4. I've used a Roamio Basic at a friend's place and experienced lagginess myself. These issues that have never dogged my Roamio Plus. I upgraded this box soon after purchase with a 3TB drive, and that is still working fine, now happily running TE4. No lagginess whatsoever, and it's powering two TiVo Minis, neither of which are laggy either.
     
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  19. Charles R

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    According to here... extra chip in the Plus/Pro for local streaming (not supported on the Roamio) I'm assuming. I have never noticed any real difference between TE3/TE4 with my Roamio. Performance has been fine with better response than I found with the Amazon Recast. Regarding "reported" problems I'm guessing the "Basic" model has the lion's share of sales so comparing it to another model isn't apples to apples.

    The TiVo Roamio was made available on August 20, 2013.[34]

    Hardware:

    • CPU: Broadcom BCM7241 3000 Dhrystone MIPS
    • Transcoder: NXP (Freescale / Zenverge) ZN200 (Roamio Plus and Pro only)
     
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  20. Mikeguy

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    Thanks for the fact-based, personal user input.

    I'd be interested in seeing earlier complaining posts from here about the Roamio Basic box as vs. the Roamio Plus/Pro as to the core TiVo functions (and not as to the missing MoCA or streaming capabilities), as I really don't recall them and the core engineering between the boxes seems to be the same--I don't recall differences (e.g. different chipsets) having been pointed out earlier.
     

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