TiVo inserting short advert before playing a recording

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  1. Feb 4, 2020 #2001 of 2168
    Fofer

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    But since viewers are able to contact TiVo and opt out of the pre-roll ads, and others are leaving TiVo in droves in disgust, means that proposition is not quite that genius.
     
  2. Feb 4, 2020 #2002 of 2168
    Mikeguy

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    Well, no one said that TiVo was a genius when it comes to being a genius. (Also, the TiVo consumer world as a whole doesn't know to contact TiVo to opt out, it's only the people here and others who learn of this option--I wonder what that total number is.)
     
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  3. Feb 4, 2020 #2003 of 2168
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    Sometimes I wonder outside this forum, if there are just people using a Tivo and just roll with it. :confused:
     
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  4. Feb 4, 2020 #2004 of 2168
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    I think Tivo falls into the "days gone by" category when it comes to their hardware. Cord cutting seems like it will continue. Licensing of Tivo IP seems to be their future. The dongle seems destined to fail (it's not needed due to a crowded market already). Fire TV (not a fan) and Apple TV seem to be the leaders. Roku has great market share, but support for the platform appears to have declined from developers; this isn't noticeable right now, but in the next few years, it could be a problem. So many TVs sold under the Roku banner are so grossly under powered, soon, they won't work will new services. ATSC 3.0 is going to be a bear. We're testing it now and I'm not sure how current devices (besides Apple TV and Nvidia Shield quality-level devices) are gong to make it post ATSC 3.0. HDHomeRun hasn't even addressed ATSC 3.0, yet.

    All-in-all there is a lot opportunity in this space but some fresh thinking is needed; and it isn't running ads before recorded content.
     
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  5. Feb 5, 2020 #2005 of 2168
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    Why does ATSC 3.0 matter for these devices? They don't have ATSC tuners now, and there's no reason to believe any of them will add ATSC 3.0 tuners. Even if they did, they aren't going to be trying to implement an ATSC 3.0 tuner in software so the CPU power doesn't matter. Any device dealing with ATSC 3.0 will have a hardware tuner that outputs an HEVC stream, and a hardware HEVC decoder for display which is already needed for a device that handles 4K. The CPU isn't doing a whole lot of heavy lifting in that scenario.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2020 #2006 of 2168
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    I've been reviewing various streaming services in the last week and mapping out what I get get from each and what I care about getting, et. al. When I return from a trip in about 9 days I'm going to sort out rearranging my subscriptions. I think it's unlikely I'd drop the basic cable services completely, so that'll leave me with TiVo functionality still in use, but I'm about to get closer to just departing from the ecosystem... much closer than ever before, at least. Buying an OTA version of TiVo hardware is definitely not under consideration, no matter what other choices I make. So to that extent, TiVo's recent behavior has at least that consequence.
     
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  7. Feb 6, 2020 #2007 of 2168
    Pokemon_Dad

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    Channels DVR is among the possibilities discussed in TiVo Alternatives thread and various cord-cutting threads. The server runs on many NAS options or even an old PC/Mac, and the player apps run on platforms you'd likely use for streaming too.
     
  8. Feb 7, 2020 #2008 of 2168
    Beryl

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    Yeah and the problem is that they come back. I sent an email but will be calling TiVo to follow up. When my xfinity contract is up, I plan to get rid of TiVo.

    I find the circled text interesting. When you click on the article, the support guidance to the customer is not shown. The support team isn’t supposed to offer the opt-out option, it appears.

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  9. Feb 7, 2020 #2009 of 2168
    jlb

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    LOL.

     
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  10. Feb 7, 2020 #2010 of 2168
    dswallow

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    I have 4 HDHomeRun tuners connected and configured with my Plex Server, and there's roughly 69-76 channels I can receive, though after eliminating the religious ones and the Spanish ones, and the Chinese, Korean and Japanese ones, and the shopping channels... :), so I can always deal with OTA in one way or another. It's more a matter of convenience in possibly looking for other sources. One thing I really haven't done lately is made a list of the shows I even care about via OTA anymore; it's dwindled considerably if you look at the number of season passes I have that are just accumulating episodes and I never watch.
     
  11. Feb 7, 2020 #2011 of 2168
    Pokemon_Dad

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    Nice choice. Especially since you coulda just Rickrolled him. :)
     
  12. Feb 7, 2020 #2012 of 2168
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    This is where I am at now. The manner I accumulate and watch recordings has changed in recent years. TiVo seems disinterested in evolving to match my current priorities and also seems hell-bent on ruining the user experience I was initially sold on.

    It certainly feels like my days with TiVo will come to an end in the not too distant future. It works for now but I have lost faith in them. I have a feeling that when I do finally switch, it won’t be to a new local DVR, and all the admin and maintenance that requires. It’ll be to a live streamer with cloud DVR like YouTube TV, which I’d eventually get used to, and eventually come to appreciate more.
     
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  13. Feb 7, 2020 #2013 of 2168
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    Oh well then if you're used to Plex and happy with it, stick with it. I did not know you had that all that running. On the other topic of OTA, finding television to care about does take some effort these days. About a year ago I realized we had gone almost all streaming here, but with the help and support of TCF I found at least a few more OnePass candidates. Still mostly streaming though.
     
  14. Feb 9, 2020 #2014 of 2168
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    I had the pre-roll commercials removed from my Bolt back in September, and this nasty dishonest company has RE-ENABLED that garbage on the same box again this week. So much for the big lie that you can just call and opt-out of this intrusive crap.
     
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  15. Feb 9, 2020 #2015 of 2168
    Mikeguy

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    As I recall the earlier statements, a TiVo box software update may break the earlier opt-out. The solution is to speak with TiVo customer service and ask that the opt-out be applied again--I have never read, here, of the re-request being declined.
     
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  16. Feb 9, 2020 #2016 of 2168
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    It seems to me that Bad_Rovi is following the well-known pattern of the sleazy cable operators: when the customer calls with an angry complaint, just offer then something small to shut them up and get them off the phone, with the full intent of screwing them again later after they have gotten complacent again. You know, you can always get a cable company to give you a temporary break on your bill, but it always goes right back up after 6 months or a year. Seems telling that those unwanted intrusive forced commercials came right back on my box just about exactly 6 moths after I complained to them the first time!
     
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  17. Feb 9, 2020 #2017 of 2168
    Mikeguy

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    Yep it would be nicer if the opt-out would stick, but if one can opt-out again, it's the next-best thing.
     
  18. Feb 9, 2020 #2018 of 2168
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    If anyone has to call in after every update to get the pre-roll ads removed, it’s just a temporary disabling, not an actual “opt out.” What a joke.

    I’m thankful my Roamio Plus and Minis have never displayed this crap and the minute any of it does (if it ever does) I’ll be installing PiHole. And I won’t ever be buying, supporting, or recommending TiVo hardware again. What a pathetic end to a once-promising company.
     
  19. Feb 9, 2020 #2019 of 2168
    Beryl

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    It is a joke. Putting ads back after customers opt-out is shady. I don’t trust TiVo enough to consider their new streaming box.

    I used to wish I’d purchased OTA TiVo boxes instead of the ones I have. It is probably a good thing so I can cut ties with. My lifetime Premiere will be kept for a while but my 2 newer TiVos are history in 10 months.
     
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    I noticed my first pre-roll ads a few days back. There are four different Tom Steyer political ads appearing, and the repetition caught my attention, not to mention that they don’t appear to fit the space... typically abbreviated at the start (starting mid-sentence) and over-lapping broadcast commercials. Annoying.


    Le Sigh. Back to the FireTv and Recast.
     

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