TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. baltz

    baltz New Member

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    A few comments...

    There is an option to choose the full background video or the upper right video window on the main "TiVo Central" page (or whatever they call it now). Personally, I choose the upper right option. The size of that video window is larger than all of the others. I would like to see that size used throughout the menus. I spend very little time on that main page, so the bigger size is wasted on that page. I really like the bigger size because it makes it possible to read smaller text, scores, etc.

    On that same option screen, there is an option to hide background images in the guide, etc. I hide the images because it seems like a waste of resources to load those, and they are of no value to me. However, the mini does not have that option, so it is not possible to hide background images on it. Obviously, the video window option doesn't apply, but they need to add the option to hide the background images on the mini.

    Overall, I like some things better on Hydra and some things are worse. I don't like that even a single recording of a show is put in a folder. That is just adding wasted button presses. There are also many other things that take more presses than they did on the previous version. They did finally get rid of the annoying audio dropout when opening TiVo Central. I forgot how much that drove me crazy until recently using a box with the Encore UI.

    But, the most absurd thing is that I cannot watch recorded shows on a mini if the internet is out. I am not talking about my local network being down; I am talking about just my internet connection. Recently, my internet was down for the first time since I started using Hydra. On the mini, trying to click on My Shows gave an error about the TiVo service being unavailable. I could go to the guide and watch live TV, so I know my connection to the Bolt was there. One of the benefits of a DVR compared to streaming services is the ability to use it without an internet connection. This completely negates that and is absolutely ridiculous.

    Anyway, that's my thoughts for now. I hope TiVo takes our feedback seriously and keeps making updates.
     
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  2. baltz

    baltz New Member

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    Wow, that ended up being longer than I expected.

    TLDR version:
    -make video window bigger
    -add "hide background images" option to mini
    -require fewer button presses for everyday usage
    -allow mini to work for recorded shows when internet is down
     
  3. JoeKustra

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    I can't dispute the other items, but my Mini plays recordings when my network has lost its internet connection. I lose a lot of the artwork, but recordings still play. Maybe I never hit the right combination to cause a failure.
     
  4. Megamind

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    Mine will continue to play any recording that is already playing, but won't allow me access to My Shows to start a new recording. It instead tell me the mini has temporarily lost it's connection to the TiVo services and provides an error code C133. Fortunately, my ISP is quite stable.
     
  5. JoeKustra

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    I wonder what can cause that. I had no icons, apps and generic peaches for thumbnails. Yet I could access My Shows on two different hosts and play content.
     
  6. samccfl99

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

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    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:...but Ted did say a while ago that they might take it under consideration.

    Also about the mini and the internet, does that happen if you use MOCA? So strange...
     
  7. JoeKustra

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    No MoCA experience.
     
  8. Megamind

    Megamind I'm Feeling Blue

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    All my minis use MOCA.
     
  9. timstack8969

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    Any word of bringing Live Guide to Hydra? Still using T3 but would make switch if they added back
     
  10. samccfl99

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

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    No, and probably would not count on it, but you never know. The more I think about it, I am conflicted even if they did put it in. I do not like their thinking at all about all this. Why would they make each recording in it's own folder (for single recordings I presume and hope). Why would they make more key presses? Why no Play All in a Group folder? These are not little things and I do not care when people say "oh, it's progress, you just have to get used to it". No, I don't and no, it is surely NOT progress. Oh yes, I really want the audio cutout going in and out of TC to go away, I really want that Continue Strip, and the Voice remote, Eh, probably would not use it much, and it being faster (? maybe not so much on a Roamio Pro). These last items I and many have been asking for many years...YEARS! The way they been "rolling out the updates" disturbs me too. Do you know how many fixes it took Comcast to get the X1 to where it is today? Hundreds of updates. It might be worth it, if they buffered all tuners and got a Live Guide...LOL. Too bad they made tens of thousands of paying beta testers and it really Sucked for 6 months or more. I watched the rollout in the Comcast forums, bewildered about how they could do that to paying customers, but they did.

    Oh well, there, I have written a novella again. One that has been written many times before.

    :rolleyes::eek: HAIL HYDRA :eek::rolleyes:
     
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  11. Megamind

    Megamind I'm Feeling Blue

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    FWIW, TiVo has said there are plans to enable this feature in an upcoming release.
     
  12. mschnebly

    mschnebly Well-Known Member

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    It did take the X1 a while but updates were fast and furious and honestly, it was a massive change from what they started with but it really sucked for a while. It was almost unusable for about a year. I left for Dish. On the X1 if you record a show it will not be in a folder but if a second recording of that show takes place a folder is created that shows how many episodes there are with a little number on the end.
     
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    samccfl99

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

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    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

    Wow, I haven't been here for a while and still nothing? Well today the Labor Day weekend will be over and I hope Ted has something...Anything to say...About anything!
     
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    Megamind

    Megamind I'm Feeling Blue

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    The statement that TiVo planned to re-enable group play was made by David Shoop of TiVo on Facebook as recently as last week.
     
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    samccfl99

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

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    Oh, they have a FB page? Hmmmm, I will have to check. Dumb of them to take it out, along with the Live Guide... Thanks.

    BORING...
     
  16. sailprog

    sailprog New Member

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    The new UI must have been designed by a brain-dead person because the UX is brain dead:
    - forcing the use of a eensie winsie tiny little stupid button (back) instead of allowing the use of the left button.
    - disallowing the use of the "clear" key to quickly delete a program.
    - taking many, many, many seconds to delete a group (eg, on the suggestions)
    - removing extremely useful features like record by channel or time. Yes, you can manually setup a recording but you have no idea what are you recording. In the previous UI, you could browse 14 days in advance what was coming so, for example, you could browse the favorite channels during prime time and discover new shows that you might be interested. Now, the only solution is to create a silly "wishlist" where tivo decides what to record, not you.
    - I have not been able to find a way to create a new season pass in advance. You can only create it after a program starts.
    Yes, great UI.... (roll eyes)
     
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  17. toricred

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    Clear still works for deleting a program. I use it all the time.
     
  18. samccfl99

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

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    Still wondering why they are not even speaking about when the next Hydra update would be and what will be fixed AND/OR ADDED...

    People seemed to be Whipped into submission by Tivo, Inc...SAD
     
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  19. wtherrell

    wtherrell Active Member

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    Yes, resistance was futile. My Bolt + replacement (all front lights flashing) would not downgrade at all. Sent it back as well. The next replacement they sent would not downgrade either. I give up. The summer breeze bolt I picked up easily downgraded 1st try.
     

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