TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. Mikeguy

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    So much for that theory. :(
     
  2. realityboy

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    Is it constantly recording suggestions? I know that’s been an issue. It shouldn’t cause your recorded shows to delete, but it’ll clear out the recently deleted folder quickly.
     
  3. sushikitten

    sushikitten LivingLippy.com

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    Suggestions are off. Also an upgraded 1TB (?) Drive.
     
  4. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Does Hydra keep a history like TE3? What shows up there?
     
  5. JoeKustra

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    On Hydra it's called Recording Activity.
     
  6. sushikitten

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    I should have kept the screenshot.

    Since the box was new, every 1p should have been recording everything—nothing should have been a duplicate.

    But things were listed as not recorded because it was a duplicate plus it was recording a show at 7 and then also listing it as deleted at 7.
     
  7. Aug 5, 2018 #1027 of 1099
    McNublette

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    it's been several months since I've updated to the new UI. I've gotten used to it. I've also upgraded my tivo mini's to the vox remote. Here is a quick update.

    Pros: The new UI takes some time to get used to mainly because of the 'back' button. If you have been using Tivo for a while, you didn't ever use that button. Your hand stayed on the directional arrows as back was just pressing left (i still do miss this) However, on the newer remotes they add some much appreciated accessibility to the device. The back button now has a divit, as you will be searching for this button alot. With that said, the vox remote changes the script. I've gotten more liberal with just telling tivo what i want to watch instead of actually using the buttons to 'find' something. I really like this feature, as my mom was able to come over and say 'godzilla' and tivo provided her with all the possible viewing options, even the ones that cost me money! My mom loved all 20 dollars of it cause she just had to talk into the remote instead of me giving her a pre-calc quiz 'as she puts it' when i try to explain tech.

    Cons:
    The UI itself! So because of the voice bit i don't get into the menus as much, but when i do, the list versus the picture list, versus the when it was recorded list. All this stuff is confusing, and with the menu system just being a bunch of lists, you can get lost in what you are trying to find. Example, if you go to MY Shows, is that what you are seeing as the icons under the menu? cause when you click on it you go to a new list. If you are looking at the 'my shows' list, you can select continue watching, but it doesn't take you to a show you just watched or was watching, it just takes you to another list. If you look at the 'paused' list this will show you those shows. Lastly, on my tivo mini's this upgraded UI runs like a dog, and I typically need to reboot my one tivo mini (older revision) at least once a week as it loves to hang when backing out of apps like prime video and hulu. I do have a newer tivo mini vox and I saw the prime video take a dump on it, but hulu was fine.

    All n all, I think the new vox remotes for the older tivos work pretty well. The UI is still rough, this latest quirk i ran into with no internet and the mini's decided they can't talk to the main tivo was kinda a downer. But I think they can polish this carbon and make it into a diamond. But they need to work on the performance of the UI and steamline it's many paths in the menu system.
     
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  8. Aug 6, 2018 #1028 of 1099
    Stop the Crashes

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    My new Bolt Vox arrived last week and it had the new user interface. I was horrified! Train wreck is a good description for that mess of a UI. There’s a reason I never “upgraded” my Roamio.

    I was very happy to find that I could down-rev to the traditional experience (definitely NOT a “downgrade”), which is one of the reasons that I’ve been so loyal to TiVo over the years. It has always been superior to other DVRs.

    It would be nice to have some assurance from TiVo that we’ll never be forced into the new interface. I like my TiVo Live guide and the easy navigation of the old one. In particular, I don’t like the co-mingling of lists of local recordings and streaming options that TiVo seems to be so eager to push. Playing back a recording is far better, smoother and more responsive than streaming. (Instant pause, for example, rather than a lag between the button press and the screen response.)

    I don’t like living in constant fear that TiVo will decide to give everyone “the new experience”. I never want to have that experience again!
     
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  9. Aug 6, 2018 #1029 of 1099
    mdavej

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    That co-mingling is also in the old interface.
     
  10. Aug 6, 2018 #1030 of 1099
    Stop the Crashes

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    True, but it seems like it can be more easily filtered out or segregated in the old interface.
     
  11. Aug 6, 2018 #1031 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    Yeah, sliding over to recordings in the new interface is sooo hard.

    You seem to have not really looked into the new interface but just ran away in horror. Your posts indicate you don’t know how it works. You have a right to your opinions but don’t commingle them with facts.
     
  12. Aug 6, 2018 #1032 of 1099
    RoamioJeff

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    Indeed. It is likely to go in the same direction as other systems like Windows 10, where you may not be able to decline the "new shiny". Because.
     
  13. Aug 6, 2018 #1033 of 1099
    Stop the Crashes

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    Actually, you have no knowledge one way or the other how much time I did or didn’t take to explore the new interface, or that my career was in IT and that I have developed many user interfaces.

    Apparently you like the new interface, and it seems like you take it personally when someone else doesn’t. We’re all entitled to our opinions.

    I’m just letting TiVo know, hoping that they do consider our feedback, that I believe the new UI is a step in the wrong direction.
     
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  14. Aug 6, 2018 #1034 of 1099
    Gold51

    Gold51 The slow road, has the most adventure.

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    We got our new Bolt Vox last week, to replace the wife's Roamio- She positively does not like the interface, as regards finding and selecting shows to record- the former, vertical program side bar is much faster- She could only muster 2 days worth of programing to record, in the time she usually did an entire week's worth! Crap-a-moley-:mad:
    Then I had an epiphany- have her use the Tivo app (that she never used) on her iPad- so I set it up for the new Bolt and shezamm! It feels a lot like her old Roamio- I handed it back to her, "try this, honey"- she was all smiles again- tap, tap, tap- the entire week is now scheduled.
    The new Vox/Hydra program is better for some like me, who like instant video gratification and isn't much interested in finding shows to record for later, but penalizes the wife, who likes to record shows- however, the new Bolt did surprise her, by suggesting a program she loved and didn't know it was on at the moment.
     
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  15. Aug 6, 2018 #1035 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    By your posts, you have made several misstatements. I can only judge by what I see.
     
  16. Aug 6, 2018 #1036 of 1099
    Stop the Crashes

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    What I stated was my opinion and it was not misstated. Bye now.
     
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  17. Aug 6, 2018 #1037 of 1099
    Gold51

    Gold51 The slow road, has the most adventure.

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    One thing is certain in computers is that programs are always evolving. Back in the early 90's when I first started working at Chrysler (electrician) we used a PLC program called Modicon. It was a dream to use that interface to trouble shoot a stopped process- alt/P keystroke the dead coil circuit until the search stopped at the device/contact that had stopped the process. Then around 2000 Chrysler switched to Allen Bradley and it was terrible for troubleshooting. We all hated it, as our jobs became much more difficult and there was longer downtime. At up to $2000 a minute, whatever they saved by going to Allen Bradley was eaten up in down time. The engineers loved it- easier to develop a program than it was in Modicon. I told one engineer- you guys deliver the new baby and electricians are stuck changing the diapers.
    I am certain the Hydra presentation the designers did for the Tivo directors went over great. The customers are stuck with the stinky diapers for awhile.
     
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  18. Aug 7, 2018 #1038 of 1099
    schatham

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    I do not like the way "my shows" is set up in Hydra. It's like fingernails on a blackboard.

    This bothers me more than no live guide.
     
  19. Aug 7, 2018 #1039 of 1099
    fburgerod

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    I agree. My shows is clunky. But I still find enough good in Hydra to embrace it. I fully expect Hydra to mature and hydrate in the future.
     
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  20. Aug 8, 2018 #1040 of 1099
    Rey

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    Went to hydra today and like it so far. It definitely needs some more work. The big thing bothering me right now is there's no option to sort the guide by letter. Major problem with the mess xfinity has with its channels.
     

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