TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Mikeguy, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. Jan 24, 2018 #901 of 1099

    ohboy710 Member

    Jun 30, 2008


    Don't upgrade, you will regret it.
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  2. Jan 25, 2018 #902 of 1099

    JayMan747 Member

    Nov 10, 2008

    SPOT ON!!!
  3. Feb 1, 2018 #903 of 1099
    The Merg

    The Merg 1*

    Dec 2, 2007
    Northern VA
    Perfectly stated.

    I would also add as to why is it that even when you only have one episode does it create a folder. I even see it do that for movies that I have recorded. For example, "The Girl on the Train" is in its own folder so that I can't just highlight it in the PlayList and hit Play. That's ridiculous.

    - Merg

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  4. Feb 1, 2018 #904 of 1099

    solutionsetc Member

    Apr 2, 2009
  5. Feb 1, 2018 #905 of 1099

    oryan_dunn Member

    Dec 1, 2016


    But it's not a beta. It's shipping on new Tivo boxes.

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  6. Feb 1, 2018 #906 of 1099

    realityboy Well-Known Member

    Jun 12, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    I’ve been using Hydra for a few weeks now, and these are the 2 features that I miss the most. The first one shouldn’t be a huge deal since it only needs to be done once, but unfortunately, the new Bolt+ that I bought from Amazon died after 3 weeks, and now I have to redo the channel list on the replacement.
  7. Feb 2, 2018 #907 of 1099

    deacon523 New Member

    Dec 1, 2010
    (quoting DD_Ranch below, rather than repeat his excellent summary). My main issue is that Tivo took a mature interface, with logical and intuitive navigation, and screwed up all the things that made Tivo great, while offering little in return but a different GUI. It used to be that using another DVR was a pain because the Tivo interface was so much better, with Hydra it seems little different thanwhat is being offered by Xfinity or FiOS, and that is sad. And the worst thing: all of these issues are fixable. Get on it, Tivo! I can't imagine there is anyone clamoring to not use the left arrow opposed to the back-button.

    Some comments below.

    These all represent steps back, imo. Why do away with these features?

    One of my biggest gripes, why not have this information with so much screen realstate available, just another thing requiring more work to get the same information.

    Worse, it always reverts to Channel two, which on FiOS is the home shopping network or whatever, so now I have yammering about commemorative plates, and no way to turn it off without muting the tv or going back to live tv and changing the channel manually.

    100% agree. And why change the left arrow at all? have up or info pull up that useless menu instead.

    This is a huge irritant and needs to be fixed ASAP.

    Another function that is just simply "missing." Why remove this feature? I used it constantly on every Tivo I've ever owned.

    Right! what else is that 9 button doing?

    They went to the trouble of reducing the font and making the screen HD, why not use that space for a purpose? Most particularly, I want to see the date in my programs list - earlier iterations of tivo showed the date of the most recent recording, even if sorted by group. Bring that back.

    Hydra looks and feels like it was designed by committee without any thought to what the tivo community wanted or needed. Yes, it is "different" but not only is it not better, it is a huge step back in many ways. The only benefit is a slightly sleeker looking GUI, and much of that is wasted. As mentioned above, all these things are easily fixable, so fix it, Tivo!
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  8. Feb 2, 2018 #908 of 1099

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I think there are more important things to fix first.

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  9. Feb 3, 2018 #909 of 1099

    Rkkeller Well-Known Member

    May 13, 2004

    I disagree and love the new UI, looks and works more like other DVR's now not an ugly plain blue screen. A lot of screens have more pictures and graphics too if you know how to use them.
    Great experience, I hope they change very little, works great to me.
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  10. Feb 3, 2018 #910 of 1099

    RoamioJeff Unregistered User

    May 8, 2014
    A committee from Fisher-Price.
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  11. Feb 3, 2018 #911 of 1099

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    Staunton, VA
    I had a fellow System Engineer make the same comment about Windows XP when it came out. He apparently got used to it as years later he used the same comment about Windows 7. :)

  12. Feb 4, 2018 #912 of 1099

    RoamioJeff Unregistered User

    May 8, 2014
    I remember. The default desktop theme had the big blobby green Start button, and all the menus and dialogs had a pre-school look. In every version since then I have selected the "Classic" theme. Clean and precise with a minimum of visual distraction.

    Yep. In the final analysis we are all frogs in a pot where the burner heat is slowly turned up and we get used to it before we realize the water is boiling.
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  13. Feb 4, 2018 #913 of 1099

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    Staunton, VA
    I never saw it as a "pre-school" look myself (XP or Windows 7).

  14. Feb 8, 2018 #914 of 1099

    borghen New Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    I just downgraded and couldn't be happier. Hydra did not have a high WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor).. In fact, the wife hated it.

    I agree with most of what other people have stated already, but a few complaints are:
    My Shows: should show more information, yes, it's sorted by date, but come on, at least show the date.
    My Shows: So many more clicks needed to get to information
    Mini Guide: I think you hit the down button, and you get a humongous single channel row. That's almost useless. I use the mini guide a LOT.
    Menu: Cool, I can add 4 options, but why can't I arrange the first 4, and why only 8?

    They seemed to go with a minimalist approach, but it just feels cheap, and underwhelming with all the hard edges and corners. There needs to be a lot more work.
  15. Feb 8, 2018 #915 of 1099
    Diana Collins

    Diana Collins Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Aug 21, 2002
    New York...
    RE: Hydra on new hardware...

    It is no mystery...they had built up plans for the rollout of the VOX units for the Holidays and needed software that supported it. It was pushed out while the paint was still wet. It is getting better and most operational issues have been resolved.
  16. Feb 10, 2018 #916 of 1099

    siratfus Active Member

    Oct 3, 2008
    Out of the loop on Hydra, but now that it's Feb 2018. Has there been improvements? I have one Roamio Plus, and 3 minis. Any reason why I shouldn't upgrade to Hydra? I'm not concerned with aesthetics, I'll generally prefer things trying to be more modern. My only concern is performance. Will things be slower, glitchy-er, etc. Thanks!
  17. Feb 11, 2018 #917 of 1099

    richsadams Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2003
    Same boat here. Got a bit excited reading about the VOX remote but after some due diligence including reading most of this thread, the wind's been taken out of my sails. I'm particularly concerned about the WAF after reading about borghen's experience. If the wife ain't happy...

    I know a good deal of this boils down to taste and I'm fine with a bit of a learning curve, but I do not want to lose any of the current features we (and most folks) enjoy. Plus with about 75% of a 3TB drive full of recordings I am NOT about to roll back so I want to go in eyes wide open.

    Welcome some additional thoughts about the current state of the Hydra GUI as well as the performance of the VOX Remote.

  18. Feb 11, 2018 #918 of 1099

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    They've released a few bug fixes but no substantive usability improvements yet. There is supposed to be another update at the end of the month but that's not shaping up to be a big leap either, and the missing features will remain MIA for the foreseeable.

    Speed isn't a huge problem. It's not as fast as gen3, but it's not slow per se.
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  19. Feb 11, 2018 #919 of 1099

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    But with certain beneficial features of Gen3 still missing, right? Apart from some preferences that people might have (specifically, thinking the TiVo Guide), some major items such as program transferability off and onto the box.
  20. Feb 12, 2018 #920 of 1099

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Observation: Those Gold Star promo items that appear from time to time in TiVo Central on the classic UI seem to be missing from Hydra. Could this be something not yet finished? Also, the Gold Star also appears in Apps, so that may be why Hydra doesn't have them. Plus there is no TiVo Central with Hydra.

    I've had a Gold Star for Altered Carbon on Netflix for a week on my Gen3 box. I don't have Netflix checked. Not a very smart ad.
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