TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. Dec 17, 2017 #841 of 1099
    atmuscarella

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    Well my experiment with Hydra is done. Rolled the Roamio OTA back to the Gen 3/HDUI this morning. I had to do the process out line in the How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1 thread two times. The first time I don't think the Roamio OTA had a current/acceptable version of the Gen 3/HDUI to role back to and had to down load it during a reboot, as after the process completed I was still in Hydra. Tried it a second time and the roll back process took longer and when I got done I was in the Gen 3/old HDUI. Beyond having to do it twice the roll back process was easy.

    I found no compelling reason to stay with Hydra. My view is pretty much the same as it has been, those that like flashy graphics and are looking for lots of information will like Hydra. Those that know what they want to record and watch and are not a fan of flash graphics will like the old HDUI. Perhaps if I had a VOX remote voice might have tempted me to move to Hydra but without one the only thing I liked better in Hydra than the old HDUI is that I can turn off the preview window in the guide.

     
  2. Dec 17, 2017 #842 of 1099
    RoamioJeff

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    Wise choice. Glad the rollback worked out for you.
     
  3. Dec 27, 2017 #843 of 1099
    sandycityscott

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    Noticed closed captions don’t work properly in Quick Mode.
     
  4. Dec 28, 2017 #844 of 1099
    samccfl99

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    I love QM (mostly for news and some late night shows at times), but hate CC and I cannot even fathom how anyone could read it that fast...:eek::D
     
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    Johncv

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    Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to remember reading that the Hydra Interface was/is being use on TiVo's in Spain on a cable system, so I really don't know why there are so many bugs/issue showing up now.
     
  6. Dec 28, 2017 #846 of 1099
    Johncv

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    Practice. :)
     
  7. Jan 2, 2018 #847 of 1099
    nsrdave

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    My 15 year TiVo experience & opinion of the new Hydra UI is nearly identical, if not identical. I upgraded my Bolt+ I've had for months to support the Vox remote I got for Christmas, and then had to upgrade the 3 TiVo minis that run off the Bolt+. Me, my wife, & my teenage daughter HATE the interface!!! Did TiVo lose their brain trust that 'used to' develop cutting edge, user friendly, and inituitive products? I haven't had the time to investigate all options, but 15 minutes of browsing has led me to believe I can't go back to the old (Good!) interface without losing all of my recordings &/or other unacceptable consequences. If this doesn't get better, MUCH better, TiVo will lose me as a customer as well as everyone I that I once recommended TiVo products to.
     
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  8. Jan 3, 2018 #848 of 1099
    lessd

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    For the Hydra UI the back button is your friend, that button solved most of my problems I had with Hydra, now if TiVo will make the back arrow also the back button, that would be great.
     
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  9. Jan 3, 2018 #849 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    They are not going to. The left arrow doing back SOMETIMES was a flaw in the old UI. It didn’t always go back. Now they have a dedicated back button. Just use it. I really don’t get the angst over it.
     
  10. Jan 3, 2018 #850 of 1099
    stile99

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    I understand both sides completely. There is absolutely nothing more intuitive than having the 'back' function linked to the 'back' button. That said, I do in fact get the angst over it. The left arrow is way larger and many older remotes simply don't have a back button. All future remotes released should have a small raised dot on the back button to make it easier to find, and frankly increasing the size would be a good idea as well.
     
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  11. Jan 4, 2018 #851 of 1099
    TiVotion

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    It’s completely intuitive. The problem is when you’re not looking at the remote or you’re in the dark, the back button can be hard to locate with your thumb. The left arrow is easy.
     
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    JoeKustra

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    Interesting. While the location of the back button is left of the left, on a VOX remote it is also different. It has a depression on it. It "feels" different.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2018 #853 of 1099
    aaronwt

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    The left arrow never made sense to use for back. Using the back button is more intuitive.

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  14. Jan 4, 2018 #854 of 1099
    aaronwt

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    The back button is just as easy on my remotes. Actually any button on the top two thirds of the remote I can use without looking. It's the buttons on the bottom third of the remote that I need to look at the remote to use.


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  15. Jan 4, 2018 #855 of 1099
    NashGuy

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    Well, I finally upgraded my Roamio OTA to Hydra. And...eh. I can't say I'm impressed with it, but I don't hate it either. Some things I kinda like, some things are vexing. (I need to find the Info button on the remote to see anything other than the playback timeline about the recording I'm watching?) From a pure aesthetic standpoint, it's not as pretty as the old HD UI. I get they were going for a modern look (and the TiVo UI was in need of modernizing its design language) but when I compare the look (not functionality or features, just look) of Hydra to X1, Apple TV, Fire TV or the next-gen DirecTV UI, I like all of them better. And the animations/transitions are a bit sluggish on my Roamio, although that's probably not the case on a Bolt.
     
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  16. Jan 4, 2018 #856 of 1099
    RoamioJeff

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    I don't understand why anything in a UI needs to be animated. It's annoying and waste of CPU cycles. And it often comes across as sluggish if the processor is underpowered or busy with other tasks, slowing everything else down by a non trivial amount. All for cheap eye candy. Style over substance.

    I turn off animations in every UI where ever I can. Windows, Android, etc. I hope that when Hydra is refined there will be options to do so.
     
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  17. Jan 4, 2018 #857 of 1099
    schatham

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    The back button is small and not easy access. The left arrow was easy without looking at the remote, which happens when watching lying down in bed or a dark living room. It may not bother you but it does others.

    Also, when scrolling up, down, right and back your finger is in one location to do all these functions. The back button removes that rhythm.

    If the back button is so good why not a separate forward, left right and up button?

    Sling TV and Vue TV started without a standard guide. They were forced to add them by customer pressure. The customer wanted a simple interface to see what was on, not a graphic oriented interface, which was how they designed it.
     
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  18. Jan 4, 2018 #858 of 1099
    Johncv

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    I not using the new interface, so could someone describe just what is being "animated"
     
  19. Jan 5, 2018 #859 of 1099
    JoeKustra

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    This thread. :) Other than that, I can't find anything unless you consider the video window animation. And it can be disabled.
     
  20. Jan 5, 2018 #860 of 1099
    BigJimOutlaw

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    The menu transitions. Instead of left/right scrolling, Hydra fades in/fades out with a little bit of zooming. You can see it in hydra videos.
     

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