TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. Nov 19, 2017 #581 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    Is there a forum/thread just for Tivo Roamio OTA? Or cable cutters?
     
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    JoeKustra

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    Here's the thing. I saw the post that the video window "suddenly" appeared. I was going to reply, but I saw this was a Hydra thread. I deleted my post. I wasn't trying to muddy the waters. A question was posed that seem to imply a Mini didn't support the video window. My fault.
     
  3. Nov 19, 2017 #583 of 1099
    Diana Collins

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    Minis have always supported picture in guide (if you go directly to the guide from a live or recorded video feed), but not picture in picture.
     
  4. Nov 19, 2017 #584 of 1099
    lpwcomp

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    Has any TiVo supported PiP? The Video Window the HDUi supports is not PiP.
     
  5. Nov 19, 2017 #585 of 1099
    samccfl99

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    Folder Question:

    I have a question about the folders in Gen4. I am asking regarding a bug caused by Crappy Guide Titles. So I watch Cspan WJ a lot and sometimes some shows do not go into the folder. EDIT: On the 2nd line of the title in the Info there are sometimes things in quotation marks, making it not go into the folder. It should be ignored for folder placement. Now KMTTG is Smart enough to know that the top title controls what folder it should be placed it in and it puts the second line with the quotes after the title in the correct folder in that entry. I am not sure if this started happening before 20.7.2/4 or not (with the 2nd line I mean). Does anyone know if this same situation happens in Gen4? I do not understand why Everything is folders in Gen4, but I guess if the count is still there, whatever (an extra useless click).

    Thanks.

    UPDATE: This is a very hard thing to test. You actually can't, it just has to happen. I am going to assume it is the same in both. I wish they would fix it.

    Maybe Ted will see this and find out why it cannot work correctly in the Tivo software and it does with KMTTG (I know why. Because @moyekj is smart and catches picayune things like that. A REAL DEV).
     
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  6. Nov 19, 2017 #586 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    I have pretty much decided that the Roamio OTA is not my device of choice for streaming services. Maybe Pandora but that is it. I unchecked everything but OTA. That is really why I bought it- to drop cable service and record OTA. I just change the TV input and run my Apple TV for everything else.

    My Tivo Premier is the same. We have tried Amazon prime at various points over the past 4 years. It is not an endearing experience. It is far more reponsive to run the Amazon iOS app over Air Play or from my computer.
     
  7. Nov 20, 2017 #587 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    I agree with Premiere, Romio is better but still a bit lacking, I do still have high hopes for my Bolt and would like to be able to have one device to rule them all...

    Of course another option would be an App on an Apple TV that made it work like a mini - but I may be asking too much there.
     
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    Capnbob66

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    This is a bug I don’t see mentioned so far...

    If you glimpse a live show in full screen or window while it is being recorded, when you want to watch the show later, it starts at the point you glimpsed it, not the beginning.

    It is weird and annoying but completely repeatable on my Roamio Pro. Others getting this?
     
  9. Nov 20, 2017 #589 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    I haven't taken the time to figure out the pattern yet, but I have also seen where the saved point is in some past viewing, not the latest. Perhaps related?
     
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  10. Nov 20, 2017 #590 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    I was reading where the 4th Gen Apple TV is capable of searching for/installing thousands of apps. Mines a 3rd Gen so I can't confirm.

    I have tried hooking up a mini in the past but that was when sound didn't transmit over HDMI. Now that I can stream any content from my MacBook or iPad I have no need for a direct hook up. I can download or burn any content I want to see later and watch it on the big screen connected to my sound system.

    I don't do a lot of program or movie streaming. Most all of our streaming is educational- hobby specific like sewing, wood working, gardening, cooking, DIY, crafting etc through Craftsy or Guild (membership) sites. Unless family visits and kids/grandkids want a movie.

    My acceptable streaming standard is much higher based on my Macbook-Apple TV experience. TiVo doesn't come close.

    Things are better than 10 years ago but still not quite there for an all-in-one device.
     
  11. Nov 20, 2017 #591 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    This interesting. I think I experienced this as well. When I first hooked up my Roamio OTA I was checking now and then in a live feed to make sure it was recording the correct content. I have some "partially watched" recordings even though I never watched the recording. Since I haven't yet watched them, I can't say where they will start.

    This is another example of what in the Hydra menus and functions confused me and brought me back into the Tivo forums.

    Relieved to discover most of my problems with Hydra are not user ignorance or a poor design but the fact that this new rollout is still being perfected.
     
  12. Nov 20, 2017 #592 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    Yes the 4th+ gen has an app store and you get to pick what you want. If you have a current iPhone/iPad check out the TV app for a taste of some of what is on the newer AppleTV.

    One feature that is pretty cool is the ability of the AppleTv to present programs within the Apps. So you can see on Deck programs from the Apps without opening the App, you select the program and it opens the appropriate App and start playback for the program. The Plex App is included in this capability so I can see a selection of Movies from Netflix, Starz, and my local Plex content all in one place.
     
  13. Nov 20, 2017 #593 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    I do have the TV app on my iPad. Just showed up one day. Haven't yet used it. Thanks for the info.

    I am not getting the 4th Gen right now due to my TV's limitations. Its doesn't have audio out passthrough. The 3rd Gen has both HDMI and optical out to connect to our sound system (Sony TV dialogue is too muffled to comprehend).

    The 4th Gen only has HDMI so we would be stuck listening to the TV audio.

    Figure I can hold off on new TV until the FCC and TV makers exchange notes on upoming 3.0 implementation. Or not. Eventually as they sort it out, it will help me decide what I need in my next TV.
     
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  14. Nov 22, 2017 #594 of 1099
    hapster85

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    Roamio OTA restarted overnight. Updated from 21.7.2.RC7 to RC8. Bug fixes I'm assuming?
     
  15. Nov 22, 2017 #595 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    I was attempting to downgrade at 11 pm and it would not let me. Instead a message displayed saying an upgrade was scheduled for 2:30 am and to try later.
    I got around it by unplugging and then disconnecting the Ethernet cable (I never connected over wifi) before restarting. I was then able to go far enough to get to the 2 thumbs down but it never accepted the remaining steps. After my third attempt, I entered the 2 thumbs down, reconnected the Ethernet and this time when I got the 2 rewinds and select, it downgraded.

    Will be interested in seeing what bugs were fixed or what new features are added in the Hydra upgrade.
     
  16. Nov 22, 2017 #596 of 1099
    idksmy

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    Diana Collins has already posted what fixes are included in RC9.
     
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    ADG

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    Link please?
     
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    idksmy

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    Link
     
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    ADG

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    Thanks :)
     
  20. Nov 22, 2017 #600 of 1099
    kbmb

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    Couple of things related to My Shows:

    - Please change it so that single shows aren't in folders.
    - What's with the wasted space to the right while viewing My Shows. This could easily show a description for the current episode.
    - I've also noticed weird behavior when selecting a single show in a folder. Sometimes when I hit select to go into the folder, it shows a compact list even if there is only one show. Other times, I get this view like I've selected the show itself.
    - Often I use my TiVo as a backup and tracking.....we will watch shows via the Roku on Hulu. So I will go into My Shows to delete single episodes that are in folders. After I delete the first one, sometimes the UI loses the folder numbers for the others.
     
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