TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. Oct 29, 2017 #41 of 1099
    Leon WIlkinson

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    Does the early access link update the TiVo or just gives you the upgrade app access to update later?

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  2. Oct 29, 2017 #42 of 1099
    idksmy

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    It enables your TSN to be able to download Hydra. It has nothing to do with the upgrade app.
     
  3. Oct 29, 2017 #43 of 1099
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Yeah, that's a nuisance. You also can't just hit Play from the Now Playing list; you have to go in a level before Play will work.
     
  4. Oct 29, 2017 #44 of 1099
    Leon WIlkinson

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    I figured so I will have to wait then, just can't pull the hair trigger yet.

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  5. Oct 29, 2017 #45 of 1099
    mrizzo80

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    True. It's always been present in my setup (TiVo --> Denon AVR). Some updates would make it better; some updates would make it worse. :)

    It's possible Hydra is built on a single video "container" which completely eliminates the possibility of it happening for anyone anymore. (The previous UI kinda felt like it had a TiVo Central container and a Live TV container - and it had to bounce between the two containers, which allowed audio dropouts for some setups.)
     
  6. Oct 29, 2017 #46 of 1099
    aaronwt

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    That didn't take long. Less than half an hour to hit the boxes. I only messed with the Hydra UI for a few minutes. But so far it seems like a big improvement. I'll need to dive deeper when I get home this afternoon.
     
  7. Oct 29, 2017 #47 of 1099
    blackngold75

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    Upgraded my Bolt - it didn't take long. Overall I like it.
     
  8. Oct 29, 2017 #48 of 1099
    Player1138

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    Looking forward to some YouTube videos of it in action.

    Any new apps?
     
  9. Oct 29, 2017 #49 of 1099
    CoxInPHX

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    Epix is now a Streaming OnePass App option
     
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  10. Oct 29, 2017 #50 of 1099
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Everything is working, though I have a simple setup. No audio system, etc. It's much more modern and I love the high-res artwork assets and text.

    The one thing I was starting to dislike about the old HDUI (Encore) was how monochromatic, boring, and stagnant it was. In Hydra the use of high-res poster art and episode art adds a lot of flare and color and liveliness throughout the UI.

    Bigger TV preview window is nice (can be turned off.)

    Generally it takes more keypresses to get to things. That's not really endearing.

    UI is slower than gen3, but it's still pretty good on Bolt. (I didn't try on Roamios or Minis)

    Home screen customizations you can choose from: To Do List, OnePass Manager, Settings, Live TV, Guide, Wishlists, all of the major apps

    kmttg seems to work but I haven't done an in-depth check.

    Overall, it's not bad but there is a lot of fine tuning still necessary.

    Issues:
    - As reported, No Live Guide
    - As reported, pytivo transfers to Hydra don't work (neither push or pull)
    - DVR transfers TO Hydra are missing. This can only be done using Tivo Online.
    - Prediction bar isn't predicting any movies. Only shows. :unamused:


    Thoughts/Points/Nitpicks:

    What to Watch is highly upgraded. A lot more categories. Much easier to navigate than that old, awkward grid. It even has a category just for movies appearing on your premium channels. Sweet!

    The Prediction bar should include movies and VOD. I seldomly ever watch live TV, so that's all wasted space to me. Maybe it'll learn this over time, or not.

    The Left button doesn't work for any "back" navigation anymore. You HAVE to use the Back button, which is not as easy to find.

    My Shows episode strips aren't usable, particularly if you have a lot of episodes. There's no season selection. Keep the defaults -- Episode strip: No. Go to episode list: Yes.

    My Shows categories -- I love that the categories are now along the top instead of a left-hand column. But why are Paused programs being forced as a category? Really not necessary.

    The Program Information menu is.... messy (I don't know what else to call this show menu). All of these strips open up whether I want to see them or not... What's the difference between Watchlists and Recordings? This is weird and unfriendly.

    When I go into a show's OnePass menu, the menus are backwards. It's listed as Cast, May Also Like, All Episodes, Upcoming, OnePass Options. I would expect them to be in the exact opposite order with OnePass Options being the default on top. Very odd.

    Overall, not bad. It's visually exciting, but usability is not optimal as of yet. It needs a lot of tweaking. Good for version 1.0.

    Ted, Tivo has turned away from community developers. Please start a dialog between Tivo and the makers of pytivo and other apps so that they can bring push/pull PC transfers back, and hopefully other new features as well.
     
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  11. Oct 29, 2017 #51 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    It already has been on my Bolt.
     
  12. Oct 29, 2017 #52 of 1099
    schatham

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    I pulled the trigger, at least on the Tivo authorization page. Need to download soon.
     
  13. Oct 29, 2017 #53 of 1099
    innocentfreak

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    I agree and sad to see it happen especially after the Q&A with Ira where he said they needed to embrace those people. Of course after that push functionality was killed and now pull functionality. Hopefully Ted might be able to turn the boat around.
     
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  14. Oct 29, 2017 #54 of 1099
    CoxInPHX

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    Not on mine, if you search "Berlin Station" does it return Epix links, just like Netflix links?

    EDIT: Nevermind, My Old UI does now also, must have been a 20.7.4 added feature.
     
  15. Oct 29, 2017 #55 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    Not sure when they linked it up since I don’t search for epix much not have any Series I watch on it. I know the app has been there a while but not sure when the link capability was added.
     
  16. Oct 29, 2017 #56 of 1099
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I agree.
    Yeah, I had to program the "Back" button into my Harmony (taking up the last unassigned button; hope I don't need to add anything else!), and now I have to untrain years of pressing left-arrow to return to the Now Playing list from a recording.

    But overall, I'm getting used to it surprisingly (for me) fast.
     
  17. Oct 29, 2017 #57 of 1099
    blackngold75

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    FYI: Can't transfer anymore from ReadyNAS.
     
  18. Oct 29, 2017 #58 of 1099
    soremekun

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    Minor peeve
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    While watching a channel, pressing the Guide button takes me to the guide. Pressing Guide again takes me to back to the channel smoothly. Fine.

    However, while watching a channel, pressing the guide button takes me to the guide. But, if I press Select (on the SAME channel), the channel "reloads" and not smooth as if pressing Guide.

    In this specific scenario, pressing Guide and Select should have the same result.
     
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  19. Oct 29, 2017 #59 of 1099
    ebockelman

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    I'm also not digging the no use of right for select and left for back. That made navigation quick since you didn't need to leave the directional pad.

    Overall, I'm liking the new UI, but that is a bit of an impediment that I hope they will adjust.
     
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  20. Oct 29, 2017 #60 of 1099
    PSU_Sudzi

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    Anyone notice the Grid Guide appears misaligned on the left side, i.e. you can see the last two letters of an earlier show? Maybe intentional but looks odd.
     
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