TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. Nov 17, 2017 #561 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    After reading 23 pages of this thread/forum I am jumping in hoping it wasn't covered in the pages I missed. My Roamio OTA just arrived last night. I plan to cut the cord from Frontier Fios TV next month. What a shock to see a bewildering UI after setting up my new Tivo. It's like a dear friend of mine showed up on my doorstep with a freakish facelift that has hidden her eyes, nose and mouth. But I know they have to exist somewhere so I keep looking!

    I was a fan of the Live Guide because I really enjoy TCM. A few years back Tivo changed the MOVIE search so it no longer displayed results for 3 & 4 star movies. Instead it moved to displaying by categories in various formats. So I reverted to using the Live Guide every Sunday and I scroll through TCM (and PBS) to locate 3-4 star movies and specials I am interested in.

    So now with the Roamio OTA Hydra the MOVIE search results are ALL streaming options. None of them I found today were OTA. The only way I could find any OTA movies was to launch the Live Guide and scroll through all of the OTA channels which took a lot of time. AM I MISSING SOMETHING? Is there a way to find upcoming OTA movies instead of the streaming and app movies that incur a fee? Maybe I will have to buy a paper or a TV Guide again?

    The same with TV shows. I typed in a few titles of what we watch on our OTA channels and results took me to Amazon or Vulu (?) or some streaming thing that incurs a fee.

    Second is the TRANSFER option. I have a Premiere on Frontier FIOS and the Roamio on OTA. I want to transfer my Premiere's recorded TCM movies over to the Roamio so they will be there when I drop my Frontier service. I went to Tivo online and was able to do that until about 9pm tonight. Then the Tivo Online site went down (would not load in any browser) until around 10:30 PM. IS THIS A COMMON OCCURRENCE? (Difficulty in accessing Tivo online during certain hours?)

    Lastly I want to say THANK YOU!! I have spent the day backing out of menus by hitting the TIVO button on my remote so I can get to the home screen so that I can get to another menu. My thumb was plum worn out trying to use the left arrow and getting nowhere. I even tried 2 other of my Tivo remotes. I never noticed the new remote BACK button, likely due to my cataracts/vision problems. Needless to say, I am one happy camper not having to restart my journey every time from the Tivo Home screen!! (Yes, I do miss having Tivo's How To Videos that were automatically available on my newly purchased Tivo.)

    Right now I am dealing with sensory overload. This is going to take some getting used to. I don't plan on streaming, I was just looking for my familiar Tivo UI to record OTA free. Being visually impaired isn't helping but thankfully it seems that I am not alone in figuring this out.
     
  2. Nov 18, 2017 #562 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    Good observation, led me to check my Wishlist Folder.
    There is no way to tell what the program is unless you have the Episode Strip enabled their either.

    Also when checking my wishlist I found a slight wording change in Wishlist recording options.

    On the HDUI
    Record only in HD Yes/No
    This reads to me:
    Yes: Get only HD
    No: Get HD or SD

    On Hydra
    Record in HD Yes/No
    This reads to me:
    Yes: Get only HD
    No: Get only SD

    Functionally it seems to operate the same in HDUI or Hydra even though the wording changed.
     
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  3. Nov 18, 2017 #563 of 1099
    aphoid

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    Would it be possible to pin this thread to the top for now?
     
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  4. Nov 18, 2017 #564 of 1099
    JoeKustra

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    It's averaging 25 posts per day, just over one per hour. I wouldn't worry about it dropping down until all the bugs are fixed. o_O
     
  5. Nov 18, 2017 #565 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    I spent another 2 hours today and found the sub menus for determining what source to record and search in. So now I can find OTA movies and shows to watch and record.

    I think I am going to like this new UI.
     
  6. Nov 18, 2017 #566 of 1099
    oscarfish

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    I was wondering if newly purchased Roamio OTAs would come with Hydra (well, I knew they eventually would, I didn't know if it had started already). Guess the answer is yes, unfortunately for me.

    My understanding is that user initiated "upgrades" to Hydra can be undone, but with loss of previously recorded programs. Can units originally shipped with Hydra be undone too?
     
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  7. Nov 18, 2017 #567 of 1099
    Phil_C

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    TiVo_Ted said that a new Bolt Vox can be converted to Gen3. So my guess is that this would also work on a Roamio that ships with Hydra.

    What a difference!
     
  8. Nov 19, 2017 #568 of 1099
    SandiMacD

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    Can someone direct me to how to undo Hydra?
     
  9. Nov 19, 2017 #569 of 1099
    idksmy

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    There's a thread here.
     
  10. Nov 19, 2017 #570 of 1099
    cwoody222

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    I’m a bit behind in reading but has it been posted about the Mini (non-Vox) suddenly getting Picture-in-Picture functionality in the guide?

    Works with live tv (any channel, not what’s turned on the host) and recorded shows.

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  11. Nov 19, 2017 #571 of 1099
    ajwees41

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    that's hydra
     
  12. Nov 19, 2017 #572 of 1099
    JoeKustra

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    Works without Hydra also. For at least four years.
     
  13. Nov 19, 2017 #573 of 1099
    cwoody222

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    On a Mini? I didn’t think the minis supported PIP. Or is it just supported in the Guide, and not the rest of the UI?

    (Sorry, I always have my PIP turned off on both my Mini and Roamio so they’re consistent with each other)
     
  14. Nov 19, 2017 #574 of 1099
    idksmy

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    Where, on a Mini, do you set Picture in Picture?
     
  15. Nov 19, 2017 #575 of 1099
    JoeKustra

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    I only has a video window when you hit the Guide button while watching real time TV. And I never watch recordings on my Mini, so I can't comment on that.
     
  16. Nov 19, 2017 #576 of 1099
    JoeKustra

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    Probably like Apps. It gets it from the host. Just guessing, since there is no option on the Mini.

    Also, the |> button does not turn it off.
     
  17. Nov 19, 2017 #577 of 1099
    idksmy

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    Works when playing a recording, too.
     
  18. Nov 19, 2017 #578 of 1099
    lpwcomp

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    I don't have a Mini, but what is surprising to me is that the Video Window wasn't there when the guide is displayed since it cannot be turned off on a TiVo.
     
  19. Nov 19, 2017 #579 of 1099
    ajwees41

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    look at the pic thats the hydra colors unless the mini's always looked like that
     
  20. Nov 19, 2017 #580 of 1099
    moyekj

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    I've seen reports that with Hydra you can actually get rid of video window in the guide. That's the 1st and only feature I've seen reported about Hydra that I like. I have "spoiler" window turned off as much as possible except the guide always forces it to be there.
     

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