TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. Nov 13, 2017 #501 of 1099
    RichB

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    There would not be empty space if there were more episodes. The current My Shows wastes space regardless of the number of shows.

    If My Shows had an option for this type of multi-column/preview list there would very little wasted space. There would be a show preview available during scroll and much more data. The text would not shift when new items are selected.

    The Gen3 interface and iPad implement this style of interface and folks seemed to like it.

    - Rich
     
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  2. Nov 13, 2017 #502 of 1099
    RichB

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    Hydra Search - Minor Heading Suggestion

    The Hydra Search window is well laid out.
    TiVoSearch.jpg
    The list uses the whole screen, highlighting does not scroll, contains a preview and program details.

    The "Create a WishList for ST" above is not quite accurate since you can create a One Pass.
    What comes next when you select an item can be: Create a OnePass, Cast, May Also Like, All Episodes, and Upcoming. None of these is a WishList search.

    This WishList title also scrolls of the screen. It could be removed and search string moved to the Title bar.
    In this example: SEARCH for ST.


    - Rich
     
  3. Nov 13, 2017 #503 of 1099
    solutionsetc

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    That's not a title/heading, but a selectable item. Move the selection to it and you will get a wishlist.
     
  4. Nov 13, 2017 #504 of 1099
    RichB

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    Thanks, I see that now.

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  5. Nov 13, 2017 #505 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    I was going to post similar. This screen layout is nice, My shows has a lot of wasted space and would be much better if it used this layout.
     
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  6. Nov 14, 2017 #506 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    Those two items are not mutually exclusive. Functional means they work. It does not mean they are optimal.
     
  7. Nov 14, 2017 #507 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    You guys know that if the data is there that you need, there is no wasted space.
     
  8. Nov 14, 2017 #508 of 1099
    RichB

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    Of course, that is why I advocate for restoring the data from the Gen3 My Shows list view.
    The Hydra interface has removed that data.

    The My Shows list is inconsistent in its behavior from other column based lists found in the UI. The elements exist within Hydra to improve it and provide a consistent interface.

    - Rich
     
  9. Nov 14, 2017 #509 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    I agree that there are a few inconsistencies but not as many or as large as you portray. There were plenty more in the old GUI. There are few refinements I would do, as well. For example, I would keep the banner on the screen when you scroll down under things like ALL SHOWS so you can see where you are but that is nit-picking.

    However, I do NOT think that the blank space NEEDS to be used. There is enough to do what you are trying to do at that time. I don't need the clutter to use the interface. In fact, I thought the old UI was too cluttered and truncated too many things because of the clutter.
     
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  10. Nov 14, 2017 #510 of 1099
    RichB

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    Since this is "what do your think" thread there are no wrong answers.
    Of course, if you include removed as truncated, then the new UI truncates many more :p

    - Rich
     
  11. Nov 14, 2017 #511 of 1099
    TonyD79

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    I do not. Truncated meant truncated text. Don't twist what I am saying. You cram more stuff on the screen and you have to shorten fields.

    Clean and focused works. Rather than everything on one screen. I hated the two column method of the Playlist on the old GUI but if you removed the left list, you lost functionality.
     
  12. Nov 14, 2017 #512 of 1099
    RichB

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    What other things were truncated besides text?

    There is plenty of space to add columns retain data without clutter.

    MyShowsWastedSpace.jpg


    The episode list is works very well.
    Episode Stip Off.jpg

    As does the search
    TiVoSearch.jpg

    Here is an example of a cluttered screen:
    TiVo Hydra Guide.JPG

    - Rich
     
  13. Nov 14, 2017 #513 of 1099
    aaronwt

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    Most of the shows in my list show different pics for each episode. I never looked close at the VanHelsing epsiode strip though. I'll need to take a closer look.
     
  14. Nov 14, 2017 #514 of 1099
    RoamioJeff

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    Well, we had better work towards consensus, as TiVo is likely monitoring this thread.
     
  15. Nov 14, 2017 #515 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    I agree somewhat - BUT I don't like the fact that when you enter the Search screen, the first thing you have to do to create a wishlist search is Right - Right - Right - Right - Right

    Following other screen behavior it seems Wishlist should be a C button function to change the "filter" function
     
  16. Nov 14, 2017 #516 of 1099
    samccfl99

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    That is because it is a 30+++ year old Stupid Grid style guide...
     
  17. Nov 14, 2017 #517 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    I gave up on episode strip - hopefully just a bug that will be resolved - it seems to randomly go away when I move up and down in My Shows (sometimes open, sometimes Select to open) and it is more annoying to come and go then just be gone all the time.

    I was also thinking it might be useful to have D toggle most screens to display these icons/strips as a uniform method to enable or disable graphics vs txt lists.
     
  18. Nov 14, 2017 #518 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    Is there a better example of how to see many shows on many channels over a period of time in a single view?

    Many stations have similar alternative programming at the same time of day, and prime-time generally has all the top shows.
    What better way is there for a single view of a large group like this?
     
  19. Nov 14, 2017 #519 of 1099
    MighTiVo

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    I still like Hydra, don't want to go back, but the more I use it, the more frustrated I get with Continue Watching getting in the way of getting to a show.

    Of course I am frustrated with the change of moving one of my major workflows (Devices) out of My Shows and only available as a filter. For me hitting TiVo twice to go to My Shows defaulting to last filter used getting dumped back on Devices , then Down Right to return to All Shows is a pain.

    In addition to the default filter being last used which seems on paper to be a good plan for most, the requirement to be one level down from top to use Left and Right is a major mistake in my opinion.

    i am thinking that Continue Watching may have been better off as a "filter" like All Shows/Paused/TV Series//Movies/Suggestions
    Which would likely be a similar list as Paused, but also include TV Series to view the next episode and these two lists are "filters"

    Of course options make programming and use more complicated, but perhaps this should be an option to have it on top or as a filter.
     
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  20. Nov 14, 2017 #520 of 1099
    samccfl99

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    Yes, it is called KNOWING WHAT YOU GENERALLY WATCH!!! :D:cool::D

    150+ 1P's here...I know what I want to watch...

    Maybe some of us will have a nice EASTER present...:rolleyes::D
     

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