TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

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  1. Nov 10, 2017 #481 of 1099

    Rkkeller Well-Known Member

    May 13, 2004


    I can only speak about the apps, but they all work fine for me. Majority of the Hydra problems are on the minis from what I can see.
  2. Nov 10, 2017 #482 of 1099

    RichB Oppo Beta Group

    Apr 2, 2003
    IMO: My Shows is difficult to use
    Fundamentally, this interface is distracting and difficult to navigate.
    Here is my reasoning:
    • My Shows Smart Strip is a distraction and inefficient.
      When selecting My Shows, the large icons "Smart Strip" presents a very large icons which are distracting and never seem to present anything that I want to select. When selecting My Shows, the list of shows should be displayed.
      Recommendation: Allows the Smart Strip to be disabled.
    • My Shows Smart Strip Navigation Using Right is a dead end.
      Right Select from My Shows, goes to the Smart stip. From there right/left scrolls, up returns. This is no symmetrical.
      Recommendation: Down should proceed to the My Shows list.
      Better Recommendation: My Shows Right should perform a select. Preferably, with the Smart Bar disabled.
    • My Shows List shifting is difficult to read and disruptive.
      The current UI horizontal menu is scrolled as you move through the list. As a result, on one more show is displayed. The highlighting of the current show is visually disruptive changing he item to inverted and font size. The constant shifting of the display requires reorientation. The filter selected scrolls off the screen and that information is now lost.
      Recommendation: Maintain the ALL SHOWS menu in place and fixed. When using Down, maintain the item list when progressing Up/Down through shows. Move the highlight NOT THE LIST. Do not change the size of the font when highlighting as it also shifts the list and creates disorientation.
    • My Shows List is hard to parse.
      The old UI included an icon on the left for recoding, going away, Folder (multiple shows). Left icons are useful and make the list much easier to parse.
      Also the column based Date was also helpful in identifying the day and date of the show. Much was lost in this view which is the most important list in the system for those who do not watch Live. The very purpose of a TiVo ;)
      Recommendation: Provide a grid view / Column based option which restores the Old UI functionality including: Icon's on the left, day, and date of the last recording.
    - Rich
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  3. Nov 10, 2017 #483 of 1099

    RichB Oppo Beta Group

    Apr 2, 2003
    IMO, this thread is for constructive criticism. So for each issue, I provide a recommendation.
    I am used to beta testing and Hydra is a beta. There are a number of items that make it difficult and in some cases unpleasant to use.

    The old UI has been refined with user input over a decade. Much of that seems to have been ignored. I have been supplying my parents with TiVo's since inception. I am sorry to say that my parents would find Hydra unusable.

    - Rich
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  4. Nov 10, 2017 #484 of 1099

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2004
  5. Nov 10, 2017 #485 of 1099

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY


    Your statement is amusing. The fact you don't know something doesn't mean it doesn't have mass appeal it only means you didn't know about it.
  6. Nov 10, 2017 #486 of 1099

    CharlesH Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Put a key in a slot to start a car? Haven't had a car with a slot for an ignition key in years. The car detects the key in my pocket, and I push a Start button. Isn't using a key in an ignition slot like having to walk up to a TV and turn a dial to select a channel?

  7. Nov 10, 2017 #487 of 1099

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

    Sep 7, 2013
    Even dumber still. So that is gone, Play All is gone, Live Guide and on and on and on. It's now really just a glorified X1 that buffers all the tuners and has six of them (Pro/+ versions)...

    Of course I basically use my tivo AS A DVR, like it was intended to be!
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  8. Nov 11, 2017 #488 of 1099

    Barnstormer Member

    Sep 23, 2015
    Skimming through all of this makes me think I am smart to not get Hydra soon, but wait a while. . My Tivo Roamio OTA is working well so why fix what isn't broken?

    But, I do want to thank all of you who are on the bleeding edge. :)
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  9. Nov 11, 2017 #489 of 1099

    RoamioJeff Unregistered User

    May 8, 2014
    Misses. The. Point.
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  10. Nov 12, 2017 #490 of 1099

    hairyblue A good Man

    Feb 25, 2002
    Mobile, AL
    I've had the new interface for a week. I'm not a fan. I thought the old Tivo menu was easier and cleaner looking to use. But I may just be getting old and don't want to learn new things. lol

    I haven't read all this thread but I will put in my thoughts about the Wishlist. I have two-- one for Sci/Fi fantasy and another for Science. The problem with the Wishlist is that I have 25 shows/episodes in that folder. They will list as S9 E43 "Working in Paradise" and the next thing on list is S2 E1 "Submairines, beakmania &digestion" They don't say what shows this are, just the name of the episode and you get a picture on the right that rarely has the name of the show. So this is no help. I will go down the list trying to figure out what show that could be.
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  11. Nov 12, 2017 #491 of 1099

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    Instead of complaining, hit the A button and get a configuration you like better.

    Just because you make a post longer doesn’t mean you are more right.
  12. Nov 12, 2017 #492 of 1099

    RichB Oppo Beta Group

    Apr 2, 2003
    Nothing posted is alterable using the A key.

    If you don't want to read the post or recommendations that's fine.

    It is not about being right or wrong. Either the issue described is valid or not and if valid does the recommendation improve the product or not. Hopefully, TiVo folks monitor these threads and can view the comments dispassionately for the good of the product.

    - Rich
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  13. Nov 13, 2017 #493 of 1099

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    I’ve read it multiple times and it makes no sense. The strip for My Shows are the shows you recently watched or are in the midst of watching. They are functional. So I thought you were talking about once you drill down because that is configurable.

    Since your post makes no sense, maybe because of terminology misuse, you can go on complaining. I won’t try to help since you don’t seem to want help.
  14. Nov 13, 2017 #494 of 1099

    RichB Oppo Beta Group

    Apr 2, 2003
    If you want to quote a specific item, I could possibly better explain.
    If you want to deride my post, that's your choice, but I agree, you have nothing useful to add.

    - Rich
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  15. Nov 13, 2017 #495 of 1099

    ADG Allan

    Aug 19, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    I have to disagree. I not only don't see them as functional, I see them as intrusive and annoying. Personally, I prefer plain text and would welcome an option to defeat all images on the My Shows screen.
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  16. Nov 13, 2017 #496 of 1099

    RichB Oppo Beta Group

    Apr 2, 2003
    Here is an illustration of the wasted space from the default landing place from My Shows.


    - Rich
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  17. Nov 13, 2017 #497 of 1099

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    iF you filled that space up then the UI would be too cluttered.
  18. Nov 13, 2017 #498 of 1099

    RichB Oppo Beta Group

    Apr 2, 2003
    Here is a picture of the episode strip (ON) default behavior:
    Episde Strip.jpg

    Notice that each item has the same image and only 3 items are shown. Yikes.
    Here is a picture of Episode Strip OFF List:

    Episode Stip Off.jpg

    This is well designed screen that contains:
    • The active Video screen
    • A left justified list view
    • Multiple columns
    • Show Icon
    • Show detail
    I would prefer a My Shows behaved like the Episode Strip Off window.

    - Rich
  19. Nov 13, 2017 #499 of 1099

    RichB Oppo Beta Group

    Apr 2, 2003
    Not necessarily.

    This screen is not too cluttered and very useful.

    Episode Stip Off.jpg

    - Rich
  20. Nov 13, 2017 #500 of 1099
    Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    And roughly half of it is empty space...
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